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jerry 5 Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: allis wd what to look for |
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went to look at a W D.iit was about 45 degrees out but the guy still started with either?it seemed to hold good oil presure,but the gadge didnt move any from an idle to full trottle.the gauge still read the same. even after he shout it off it took about 10 seconds for the gaudge to drop.what scared me was the either to start.he said he replaced plugs and wires,but when i looked they were all miss matched.one rear rim was shot . it had a home made three point hitcg.no brakes on the left side,how hard are they to replace?not familiar with allis,allwas been a farmall man.he is asking 800 .sould i pass on it or take a chance? |
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Jerry Coulter Long Time User
Joined: 18 Aug 2001 Posts: 1094
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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Seems about $300 too high for what it needs. New rim is about $400 plus brake work is labor intensive compared to Farmall. If it cranked with even compression strokes, ran smoothly and didn't smoke, I wouldn't worry about the ether start. He might just use ether for a crutch. How did it drive? Clutches and tranny work OK? Any noises in tranny or differential? You ought to have a buddy familiar with ACs to look at it. Oh, and are the tires good? |
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LeonardWD45 Regular
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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I would agree that the price is 300 high. I bought a 50 WD 2 years ago, with a shot rim and spent about 300 to get it into good shape. It should not need ether to start unless it needs a complete tune up(getting a bit expensive now).
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LenND Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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As long as the motor ran good and not a smoker it would sell for more then that here. |
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old Tractor Guru
Joined: 12 Mar 2000 Posts: 50400 Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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That price in my area for that is about right. As for the rim being bad define bad. I have fixed many rims that I was told could not be fixed and they have been working well for years |
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JMS./MN Regular
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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Left brake may be no big deal- pop the cover off, and if any pad is left, just adjust it- takes a 3/4 inch wrench. |
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big jt Long Time User
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 1022 Location: NW Iowa
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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To me the price sounds fair. If it sounded strong I would guess a tune up should cure the starting issue. I would add that if it is still on 6volt make sure everything is up to snuff on the starting system. Cables should be either 0 or 00, etc. Converting to 12 volt will cover for a multitude of sins in the electrical system.
As to the brakes yes they are not that complicated to adjust. Replacing is another story altogether. There is a pin that holds the bottom of the shoes that without the proper puller can be next to impossible to remove. The proper puller cost me about $100 about 5 years ago.
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big jt Long Time User
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 1022 Location: NW Iowa
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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Did a little search on the brake pin puller and it was considerably north of $100, actually $175. However if you have ever struggled with one of these that was stuck you wouldn't think twice about spending the money. |
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steve(ill) Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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If it runs, the price starts at $800. If the rims and tires were better i might get more. Around here, tractors under $700. normally dont run or dont run well. |
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Winchester1 Regular
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:09 am Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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Some of rgwm have a habit of getting stuck in 2nd gear. @.d is the most commonly used gear. Mifgt ask if this is a problem with the one you are looking at.
Most people fix by going to a salvage yard and buying an entire gear shits assembly.
Be careful, a WD45 gear shift assembly will not fit. I forget what is different.
A good salvage yard will know how to fix uou up if you encounter this problem. |
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JMS./MN Regular
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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One way to handle the lower pin removal is to drill a 3/4 inch hole in a short length of flat iron, weld it to the pin. Heat of welding helps to loosen pin, as does adding candle wax to the pin as it cools. Use the flat iron as a handle to wiggle the pin loose. If you're careful, grind off the weld and re-use the pin, using Never-Seize upon re-installation. |
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Albert Goerzen Guest
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: allis wd what to look for |
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To me it sounds like about $900 too high unless it had some rare and obscure part that you need on it. I have a totally worn out WD, that burns a quart of oil an hour that will start at 20 degrees below zero in one revolution of the crank with no nose candy. The magneto is really good, and i run hotter than normal spark plugs to keep them from fouling up from all the oil. It smells like a two-stroke when it runs. Rims and tires are really expensive, its just about worth more than the engine to fix. Does it have the Power-adjust spin out rims? I rebuilt the two rims on mine a few years ago- I cut the rails off the old rims and welded them into new rim blanks, very labor intensive but it turned out really nice. Be careful what you buy. |
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