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A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today.


 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was digging around in some drawers in the celler woodworking shop today and ran across these pics. The first is one of the 1370 open stations we sold, pulling a Landoll 9 shank Soil Saver, and the other of a 970 that we had repainted to 94 series colors and turbocharged.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Nice pics Loren thanks for sharing. Thats a very different air breather assembly never seen one like that before, we had a 970 gas a few years back great baling tractor front axle mounts broke while dad was baling sold it, wish we hadnt. Scott
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Neat pic's Loren, parents had one of them camera's I remember the "smell" when they pulled the picture out and peeled it apart. God Bless
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Gregg,
Sorry to hear about your job loss. I hope things work out for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As I stated we had turbocharged this tractor as we did a large number of 7-1070s a turboed engine will swallow 3 times more air than a naturally aspirated engine. Stock aircleaners did not allow enough intake air and exaust temps ran high when starved for air. That was the downfall for turbos in 9-1030s. Poor air flow leading to heat buildup and cracked heads.
We also had problems with the center pivot bracket breaking. We took a new bracket to a local machine shop and they fabed up several at a time for us out of thick steel. We sold those inlue of the Case built ones and never had that problem again.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 970 with that paint job really looks different. Tha addition of turbo's never caught on here, never did any. Were they M+W kits or something else? Was the larger air cleaner ussually added? I did paint a tractor those colors once and hated it after a couple years. I'm sure you seen the same thing happen, the black gets scratched or chipped off and the orange under shows through and looks bad. I also find all black chassis tractors more difficult to work on because its harder for me to see details and cleaning them sucks. I wash and wash, then think everything is clean and find all kinds of hidden dirt when you start to tear them down. Hmmm, I don't soppose that has anything to do with age and poorer eye sight, lol, Rod.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bro those are neat time capsills to th past, the 1370 sure looks odd with out a cab, as I have said before we never sold a "70" series witha cab I see it also had the big singles we found her that was not the way to tire a 13-1570 as we could never hold them even dualed in our soil, I am betting the turbo'd 970 would really snort, what air cleaner did you use? looks to be the size of a 1470 and I am guessing it was a dry-type? thanks be calling soon cnt tom
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Rod,
We ordered the parts directly out of the 1175 parts book. Manifolds, oil cooler, return and supply oil lines, exaust elbow,slip collar, and muffler. The stock air cleaners wern't big enough and the 1175 setup was really pricy, so we either doubled up the stock cleaners parallel, or came up with ones like in this pic off a wrecked truck.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bro,
The rears are 23.1x34s. Used 18.4x38s paired up very nicely, for duals. If you look close the 13 had an abundance of front and rear weights, and those 23.1s were loaded above the top of the rim. As I stated in your post about the 932, they would "Power Hop", but pulling the throttle back a bit would smoothen them out, untill you pulled through the tough spot, and then you could pick up the pace again.
When we were demonstrating with a 13, it was fun to show a customer how I could cut the Rs back to 12-1400 on a hill, and then just give it some juice and it would come rite back, The Red and Green ones had to down shift to recover from those RPMs
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Would you see HP increases with the addition of the turbo only, or was more fuel required? Rod.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Rod,
Major HP increase, without pump work. All we did was open the fuel screw about a 1/2 turn, and advance the timing about 2 degrees, they still had to start good in cold weather. 970 would dyno at 140 to 145 PTO HP at these settings.The 1070 at 155-165, and one at 180HPwith a little extra coaxing. We built these tractors up to last in the field, and didn't max them out. They actually ran cooler turboed than they did naturally aspirated, and we always told our customers to pull the same implements they had, just easier and more consistant on our steep terrain. and NOT to weight the tractors down to pull bigger implements. They had to get some wheel slip for the trannies to last.
As for the 7 and 870s, we ordered parts from Case also, as there were 336Ts used in industrial equipment. We were not an industrial dealer, but could order parts. We also repowered two 770 Gas tractors with 336T industrial skid engines that we aquired through Bassett Equipment in Sand Hill, Nebraska. They were the small journal engines and would run 110HP out of the crate. The 770s would make 90-95Hp with nothing more than tweeking the pump. We did install factory oil coolers on all of them, like the standard oil cooler that mtd between the filter and the filter manifold, on the last of the 870s,
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: A Couple of Older Poloriod Pics, That I Found Today. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All I can say is Wow, I had no idea those tractors deliver that kind of HP without major work. You have to give us another look at that turboed 470 sometime , thanks, Rod.
 
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