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How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I doing more repairs to my old Allis-Chalmers rake and greasing. Looking at the bearing I see no way to grease them there are no grease zerts. I was thinking of taking the bearings lose to grease, but the bolts are on very tight. So do I hope they never wear out?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not familiar with the rake, but are you sure the bearings are not sealed and don't require or need greasing?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

use spray grease from a can.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had this type of rake for years, those bearing are sealed, similar to the old New Idea rakes.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sealed or "lubed for life" if they need lube their
life is about over, time for new ones.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I learned something new sealed bearings, these must be sealed bearing. They move and sound good so I guess they will last another 60 years.

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(quoted from post at 11:15:15 11/20/12) Sealed or "lubed for life" if they need lube their
life is about over, time for new ones.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

They are sealed bearings that are greased for life but they don't say whose life. From the picture I would say they are still good. Occasionally I have extended the life of a sealed bearing that looks as if it has reached it's best before date by coating the outside with grease. I also have an adaptor for a grease gun that looks like a hypodermic needle with a grease nipple on one end. I snap the grease nipple onto the grease gun and then push the needle through the rubber seal of the bearing and pump grease into the bearing.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

These bearings move easy, so how long do you think they will last? The rake is an oldie, but goody I think made in the 1940’s. Do you think these bearing will last 40 years? If you view the full picture you will see we have done some welding on the pulley hub, also we replace a cable? I suppose like people a little “TLC” and you last a little longer.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How long did your rake bearing last?



 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Spray grease that sounds good liquid grease would work in.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have this idea:

“Make all in power over others, live with a farmer for a year, repair machines and learn how to ask for help from fellow farmers to understand cooperation, and a real since of what is truth”.

Walk a mile in another ones shoes before you try stepping on their toes.

Thanks to all who help.





 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Shealray,

Liquid grease spray will work it's way out as easily as it worked it's way in unless you apply it regularly. Plan to remove the bearings. You can repack them again by hand. I've done many of them by popping out the seals using a seal pick. This can be done without damaging the seal so it can be reused. Many of these bearings still contain a small amount of grease so clean them well. After cleaning check by feeling for abnormal bearing surfaces and sound. If all is well you will get a lot more life from them.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That rake is much newer than the 40s. AC had the pto side delivery rake before they made this one, a parallel bar style. The Model 77 style was first introduced in 1958, and the Model 78 made from 1965-70. 78 had the sealed bearings, don't know about the 77.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bearing 101
Got any pictures of a bearing pic and how to use it? We have and impact wrench hoping after socking with blast this will help loosed the nut holding the bearing on. By the time we do all this it is about like rebuilding the rake. The rake works well with my ford 850 tractor and I can turn both directions in a very tight turn.
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(quoted from post at 13:04:32 11/20/12) Shealray,

Liquid grease spray will work it's way out as easily as it worked it's way in unless you apply it regularly. Plan to remove the bearings. You can repack them again by hand. I've done many of them by popping out the seals using a seal pick. This can be done without damaging the seal so it can be reused. Many of these bearings still contain a small amount of grease so clean them well. After cleaning check by feeling for abnormal bearing surfaces and sound. If all is well you will get a lot more life from them.

Joe

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: How do I grease a bearing without grease zerts. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

GREAT lot new then a thought
THANKS


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(quoted from post at 13:40:40 11/20/12) That rake is much newer than the 40s. AC had the pto side delivery rake before they made this one, a parallel bar style. The Model 77 style was first introduced in 1958, and the Model 78 made from 1965-70. 78 had the sealed bearings, don't know about the 77.

 
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