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Mr. Mac New User
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:27 am Post subject: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Just purchased 76 model 140 and i need to know about how to handle the gas in tractor for winter. i can buy pure gas here with no ethanol in it. but do i fill the tank up and turn off the gas and allow the tractor to run until it quits? or leave the tank as near empty as possible and do the other above things?
Do not want carbuerator problems in the spring!! |
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Janicholson Tractor Guru
Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 18458 Location: St. Cloud, MN
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:33 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Put in Stabil (or other fuel stabilizer) and do as you indicated. No other issues for fuel are needed.
I would disconnect the battery, and put a trickle charger with a timer to charge it for 1/2 hour per day. a battery maintainer is also a good investment. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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I always park my tractors with the tank empty and the carb also drained. So far I have not had much if any problems with them when I want them to start |
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Mr. Mac New User
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Thank you, for the advice.
With adding the stabil should i leave the tank as empty as possible or does it matter? |
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CNKS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Leave a couple of gallons in it or whatever it has at the moment as long as it is not too low. Add stabilizer, and run it a few minutes to get the stabilizer into the system, shut off the gas, no need to drain the carb. I've been doing nothing for 10 years, decided that maybe I should use stabilizer. In the past all I have done is add a couple of gallons of gas then start them. Some of them get started only twice a year, only problem is dead batteries, not gas. $20-25 battery maintainers take care of that. I got tired of charging batteries. |
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CNKS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:49 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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In that tractor a couple of gallons is adequate, full is also adequate. Draining it is asking for rust, leaving it nearly empty is asking for more rust. |
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Mr. Mac New User
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:53 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Thank you CNKS.
so by doing this no need in turning gas off and letting the tractor run out?
I have never owned a gas burner tractor before so all new to me. I plan on using this tractor for gardening and pulling small leaf trailer. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Funny the oldest tractor I have has always been parked with an empty tank and that tank is nice a clean has has been since 1935 when it was built. As is most of the tanks I have on the tractors I have |
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Janicholson Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:02 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Always turn off the gasoline to the carb (even when not storing the unit, it is both a safety and a proper mode of operation even if leaving the tractor for 10 minutes). As temperatures change fuel will evaporate in the carb getting heavier and heavier residual components as residue in the carb, and making it less volatile. I believe in draining the carb by running it out of fuel. The less air in the tank, the less it breathes in and out with daily temp change, thus less moisture is introduced. Jim |
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CNKS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:08 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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I have had as many as 8 tractors at one time, and have never drained a carb, and never had carb trouble. As long as they sit only a few months there will be no problem. Of course I live in a dry area, unlike most on this forum. However 90-100% humidity early in the day is not uncommon. My tractors are kept inside, which may make a difference, though. |
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gene bender Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:40 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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Mine set in an unheated closed building with dirt floor and i use Ethanol just shut them off till spring when i need them no problems. |
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CNKS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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To each his own--I think the worst results occur when the tank is almost empty, the remaining gas evaporates leaving a bunch of crud, that is the biggest problem. As to empty, when I remove a gas tank doing my restorations, it may sit for months. I turn it any way I can get it to get all the gas out. It dries out in a short time and there is no problem later. However it is done the point is to avoid rust, however you do it. |
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David G Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:34 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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I just dump in some sea foam in the last tank and run it until I am sure it is mixed into the carburetor. |
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Dean Olson Long Time User
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:16 am Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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I shut the gas off, let the engine run till it dry's the carb out. I also drain the gas out as I can use it in something else. Next time I need it I just put in some fresh gas when I'm ready to use it. |
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bg/mo Regular
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: 76 model 140 winter storage rules about gas |
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put some sta bil in it and shut the gas off and run the carb out,no need to drain the gas tank, its only sitting over winter. I leave gas in everything i have and they sit longer than a winter and have yet to have any trouble.But I also go start everything every few months too to keep things circulated. |
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