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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have this 410 backhoe that I use just for my personal use. I am wanting a 4x4 backhoe.
I see there are a lot of Case 4x4 hoes out there for sale.
I really like how the controls work on the JOHN DEERE. QUESTION----Will I like using a Case???
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ya got any more than just a -----no----what won't I like compared to the Deere??????????

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

From what i have experienced between the two is IMHO Case equipment is jerky , tractors , dozers , loaders and back hoes . Deeres are smooth to run . I may like I H farm tractors but when it comes to industrial Ya can not beat a Cat or a Deere , but that is just me .
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

some case backhoes have the JD wobble sticks -
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi8 Lenray, I have had 5 or 6 case backhoes over the years, never had a probem. I have dug around some high pressure gas and oil lines. PS if yathrow a set of tire chains on your deere it wil change it completely. BTDT
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You wont like the case. They are jerky and the out riggers bleed of constantly while digging. The wobble sticks are about a foot shorter then others so if you are over 5' 8" you are constantly bent over the controls. They are one of the faster cycling tractors. The only backhoe worse then a case is a Komatsu.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If your outriggers are bleeding down constantly its time to change out seals in the rams or seals in your valve
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have ran a few backhoes in my day,but so far not a case. I do know that Ford and Case do offer the 2 stick controls. Might be hard to find? I also wonder how much 4x4 helps on them as mine never had it. Maybe backing up hills with a load in the bucket? Otherwise I don't know as backhoes are too heavy on the back and light on the front I don' t know if the front wheels would drive much?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you like your JD, I'd do like Lyle says and put some chains on it. You could trade it for another machine and end up with a big can of worms. As for the controls, you'd get used to them. I don't see how a Case would be any more jerky unless you didn't have a lot of experience running a hoe.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The outriggers on a brand new 580m started bleeding off the first time we used it shouldnt have to replace seals on a new tractor. The old 590L was the same way the right out riggers bleed of the most. Far as experiance I have over 10 years on backhoes and trackhoes,constantly digging around existing underground utilities.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

craigco wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:00:19 11/24/12) The outriggers on a brand new 580m started bleeding off the first time we used it shouldnt have to replace seals on a new tractor. The old 590L was the same way the right out riggers bleed of the most. Far as experiance I have over 10 years on backhoes and trackhoes,constantly digging around existing underground utilities.
Did you bring it back to the dealer so they could fix it underwarranty? If things are bleeding off there must be oil bypasing some where
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Case can't be that bad or nobody would buy them. Maybe just cause they're simpler machines (open center hyd's) they aren't super smooth? I know another guy that's run a lot of hoes and he says the JD's oil gets really hot. He liked the Fords pretty good back in the day. Another thing he didn't like on some newer hoes was the curved glass. He said it distorted your vision. He works for the City public works and is often digging around live electric and gas lines in emergencies. He got 2nd and 3rd place in the backhoe rodeo/olympics, or what ever it was called, back in the 90's. I think it may have been sponsored by Case. Anyway he has a lot hours running hoes.

Stupidest/most dangerous thing he ever saw was a gas company employee hopping in the city's brand new JD and driving right into a gas leak to put something over it or move something out of the way. He said the engine screamed to about 5000 RPM and probably did more damage in that 20 seconds than in 10 years of normal use. He just shook his head in disbelief.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Have a JD 410 BACKHOE Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There are check valves on the stabilizer control valves on Case backhoes.. These valves are supposed to positivly lock the stabilizers in position..They screw into the control valve top and bottom of these sections of valves... I removed the entire valve from the machine.. But found out that wasn't necessary..Just a whole lot easier to understand what was going on and checking for foreign pieces parts floating around by doing so..I found an o-ring blown out on the offending check valve , causing the machine to settle.There was some scoring inside these valves , so I elected to change them both out..
 
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