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jmead9
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Starter falling apart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was pulling my starter off of my 1950 8N (6V
w/side mount dist) and before I could get a nut
screwed on the end of one of the long starter bolts
it slipped out of my hands and the starter came
apart about 1 inch or so. The ends of the long bolts
are just flush with the end of starter. Any tricks
to getting it back together?
 
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JCinKY
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter falling apart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

jmead9 wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:53:16 11/25/12) I was pulling my starter off of my 1950 8N (6V
w/side mount dist) and before I could get a nut
screwed on the end of one of the long starter bolts
it slipped out of my hands and the starter came
apart about 1 inch or so. The ends of the long bolts
are just flush with the end of starter. Any tricks
to getting it back together?


Get several small flat screw driver, toothpicks, etc to hold the brushes back and slip the rotor back in. Helps to have 4 hands or a helper...
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter falling apart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Once you get it out of the tractor you will have to take the front end cover off and with the armature pushed back so you can hold the brushes back and get them all four over the communtator of the armature.

There is a trick that I learned years ago where you can pull each brush out of it's holder far enough that you can make the spring fall over the side of the brush and press against the side of each brush to hold them in place so you can install the end plate, then you can just push the brushes down and the springs will snap over the ends of the brushes to hold them against the armature communtator.

And hold you mouth just like this!!!:O)

Zane
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter falling apart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's how I learned how to do it too years ago on many of my old vehicles , except I hold my mouth the opposite way. /:^) better than /;^(

Stan
9N 222933
2N with 8N motor 8N345567
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter falling apart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Another way to do this is to pull the brushes out of the holder and then move them out the little windows on the side of the starter. You will have to remove the cover band from around the starter to do this. Next remove the housing on the brush end and be sure to keep track of the paper/ leather washers that may fall off the armature shaft. Resist the urge to smear grease on the bushing, just a little squirt of oil is fine. You can now take the drive end housing/ armature assembly off and give that bushing a little squirt of oil. While you have it apart do some preventative work and wire wheel the mating surfaces between the aluminum end housings and the steel field housing. The corrosion buildup here will give you bad ground connections and drive you to drink if it gets too heavy. You can put the starter together and snug the bolts up with temporary nuts. 1/16th to 1/8th" free play end to end is about right. The armature should spin freely now.

Now for the trick for setting the brushes. Make a "S" hook out of coat hanger. One end is big enough to go around your finger and the other end is about a 1/4"radius to grab the back of the brush spring to pull it out of the way while you put the brush in the holder. The hook only needs to be about 3" in overall length so you can rest your left hand on the outside of the starter and keep a firm hold on the brush spring to save your brush placing right fingers from the mouse trap effect. Good Luck,

Mike
 
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Justin SE IOWA
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Starter falling apart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I will tell you first hand that it is a b**ch to get it back together! Once you think you have the brushes back far enough one will slip off! You will be mad and cussing before you are done! Good luck
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: Starter falling apart Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I do them as 543 says with no problem. That is the way I was tought at the auto-electric shop.
 
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