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Sam Vastano
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:48 am    Post subject: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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I just pulled apart my 46 B to check where my Hydro oil was escaping to the tranny. The gasket on the powertrol cylinder seemed to be good so where else should I be looking? around the PTO shaft???
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sam Vastano wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:48:14 11/27/12) Group,

I just pulled apart my 46 B to check where my Hydro oil was escaping to the tranny. The gasket on the powertrol cylinder seemed to be good so where else should I be looking? around the PTO shaft???
Thanks

Sam


Yep, most likely the pto cup/spring/bushing.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sam-The PTO pump shaft seal gets hard and worn-replacing is best option-had to do on JD 60-not to bad to put it in-stopped the leaking. I think the seal consists of two seals back to back-can get it through seal company if you can get part number of old one to cross-but put in two seals back to back (seal rubber out)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks! I will pull apart and get some new seals!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jaybird46 wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:16:33 11/27/12) Sam-The PTO pump shaft seal gets hard and worn-replacing is best option-had to do on JD 60-not to bad to put it in-stopped the leaking. I think the seal consists of two seals back to back-can get it through seal company if you can get part number of old one to cross-but put in two seals back to back (seal rubber out)
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Wrong tractor! A "B" pto is not a '60 pto. It's a cup/spring/bushing. Look at the parts book and price that stuff first!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

FIT,

I took some photos I do not see the seal???? Please help!

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Opps that was the outer seal,,, More photos:

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Shaft:

 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Expensive but worth the fix. Just did it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Powertrol oil moving into Tranny Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sam,

Looking at your 3rd picture. Slide the bronze cup off the shaft and you'll see the 2 flat rubber packings (seals). They're still available from Deere for about $5.00 each. Part# A668R. New ones look like large garden hose washers.

Inspect the front face of the cup. It should have a nice flat machined surface. It rides against a bronze bushing that should also have the same type of surface as the cup. The part# for the bushing is A621R. It's available from Deere for about $19.00.

The flat packings AND the cup & bushing work together to keep the Powr-Trol oil in the Powr-Trol sump.
 
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