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Bob seND Regular
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject: Loader tractor |
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Looking for a 70-90 horse gas tractor, could be used on loader in winter, baler, drill, planter in summer.
Prefer 1655 oliver, but considering 1650 Oliver, 1800 Oliver, 7700 Ford. I'm interested in comments and recommendations about the above or other tractors similar in size. I"d also be interested in recommendations for a relatively light-weight, but quick-tach loader for the above. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I'm not positive but I think an Oliver 1800 only has power assist and not full power steering. I know someone with an 1800 and I think they said it's harder to steer when stopped. Not sure about about the 1650 or 1655. A 7700 Ford is quite a bit newer. |
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flying belgian Tractor Expert
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I have never owned one but from what I know you will never go wrong with a 1655 Oliver. My father inlaw farmed with one for many years and took real good care of it and never had one bit of trouble with it. His was a gas and he did all his heavy tillage with it. Also my friend on a dairy farm had a gas 1655 and used it hard and rough and he also had excellent luck with his. He did have a problem with the carb. once and I went threw it and he never had any more trouble. Oh and I replaced a bent valve on it once and had the head done for him. but that was miner as he had about a million hard hours on that thing. Find a 1655 Oliver and you will be getting one of the best tractors ever built bar none. |
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Bob Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I have a gas 4020 Deere powershift with a 3100 DuAl loader. NOT pretty or late model, or high-tech, but it can really make stuff happen! |
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Robert Major Regular
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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Hi
I Don't think there was any 7700 fords with a gas motor 7000 might be the last.
With the rises in gas prices in the last few years I would spend a bit extra if you could on a diesel.
It won't take long to get the money back on fuel savings if gas hits $3.50 or $4 a gallon or more again.
My diesel Major uses 2 and a bit tanks of fuel a year cutting grass.
My gas major uses half a tank getting hot and off choke and driving round the yard.
Also you might have more chance of selling a diesel if you ever needed to. I think the gas tractor market is dropping pretty fast because of running costs.
Regards Robert |
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C.R. Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:18 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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my 1655 is a handy unit it has a farmhand loader and does all i ask of it I only wish the tires were in better shape |
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ohiojim Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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in that class tractor why not go diesel ???? |
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thurlow Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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4020 gas w/46A JD loader; 5 minutes or less to remove/install loader. Loader is somewhat lighter than others of the era, but will easily handle 1500-2000# bales, etc. |
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Larry NEIL Tractor Expert
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I love my 1655 diesel. Always a good starter and handy as another thumb!
Larry NEIL |
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Vernon in Ks Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I have a 72 1655 diesel with Westendorf TA-26 loader that is the handiest tractor I own. Big enough to do most jobs around the farm and small enough to get in there. |
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David G Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I have a 6610 Ford with Westendorf TA26 loader. It will outlift and outmanuver the 4020 with a loader on it. |
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jm. Tractor Expert
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I gather from the name you are in North Dakota, and I guess that really makes a difference. To even think about a 20 year old OLIVER in this part of the country would be fatal. Folks shy away from them because I guess there was just never that many sold in this part of the country.
We just don,t se many loaders on 2 wheel tractors. Market is pretty well moved to 4 wheel tractors when a loader is mounted. Good luck with your oliver. O If I see one lurking around I will give you a tick they can be bought for near nothing when they do show up in this part of the country. |
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Bill(Wis) Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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Zippo Gasser would light right off, every time, first try. The guy lives in North Dakota and he wants a loader tractor he can use every day in winter. The only way to do that reliably with a diesel is to let it run all winter, which is what the germans did on the eastern front in WWII (The Big One). They let their engines run from November thru March. |
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Fordfarmer Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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7700 Ford would be a good choice, but it was only available as a diesel. Same with the 7000 that someone else mentioned. The 5000 and 6600 were the biggest gassers Ford offered, at 67 h.p. (late 5000...earlier ones with the smaller engine were 57 h.p.) and 70 h.p., respectively.
I have a Westendorf TA26 on my Ford 4600, and it's great. Would easily fit a 5000/6600.
I have a project 5000 that I'm swapping a gas engine into...but I'm in n/w WI, and probably too far away... |
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Loader tractor |
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I've got a Dunham/Du-al on a 1600 gas. Couldn't imagine a better loader tractor for everyday use feeding cattle. I traded a 3010 with an International 2001 loader even money for it 12 years ago. Been doing the happy dance every since.
1650-1655,you'll never,ever be sorry.Best Oliver models ever made for any job,especially as a loader tractor. Full frame,so when you take the clutch out,and you will eventually with any loader tractor,you won't have to split the tractor to change it. The HydraPower is super nice for changing speed when loading,weight and traction couldn't be better. |
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