How to determine which steering gear (pic)

[Bobby 9891]

Can anyone determine which steering gear I have by looking from the outside of the tool box ? I pulled the starter to check the adjustment on the box - but it has already been adjusted all it can - so I guess I'll pull the tank & tool box to see if the follower is worn flat . I have too much play in the steering wheel.

 

[Dick L]

That is a Ross.

Which looks like this except yours is longer because my picture is from a B.






A Gemmer will look like this


 

[Bobby 9891]

Thanks Dick - I guess my boy & I will tear it apart this coming Sat.Any more advice before I attempt this & what happens when I pull that end plate off ? What does the follower look like & will it come out easily ? I pulled the starter off today to get at the adjusting screw but it was screwed all the way in should I back it out some & try removing some of the shims where the jacket tube goes into the box ??
 

[Dick L]

At the link I have placed below you can see my repair of one. Click on the picture to advance to the next picture or (next) at the top.
Check here by clicking

 

[Bobby 9891]

Is that short pin the follower ? Thanks for the pictures !!
 

[Dick L]

That is what some have called it. It has other names with different people. Pawl is what I call them. They tell me you can buy the pawl at the John Deere parts counter. You have to drill out the old one.
 

[Bobby 9891]

Oh gosh I bet that is very hard steel !!! Thats proably why the guy before me didn't fix it. Whats the prodecure for this - cut it off first ?
 

[Dick L]

Not hard at all. I grind them off with an angle grinder, find the center and drill thru. I make my own pawl with 3/8 inch for a press fit and don't weld it in. Once it gets put back together it has no way of getting out even if it might be a tad loose with a slip fit.I do not know what the pin diameter of the ones you get at John Deere. I see over the years that most think it needs welded in. To each his own.
 

[Bobby 9891]

Thanks Dick - I hope this is my problem. How long do you think it will take to tear down & put back after I change the pawl ?
 

[Dick L]

I swapped one out for a fellow at his place one time in a forenoon. I think it was about three hours. I had all my tools that I would need on the truck. Not my first dance though.
I also swapped out his tie rod in that time.
 

[Bobby 9891]

Thanks Dick- If the pawl isn't flat on both sides where would I look for another problem ? The tie rods have some play but it doesn't seem to be excessive. I called the JD place today but they wern't sure what I was needing. They had heard of a pawl but wasn't sure of what it was . I told them I would bring a pic of it - maybe they can figure it out !!
 

[Bobby 9891]

Dick, do you know where I can get a part # for the pawl in that Ross gear box ? Went to the local JD dealer but they had know info without a part # to stsrt with !
 

[Bobby 9891]

Dick I found the part # for the follower or pawl for the ross steering box .