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KTNC Regular
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject: New Trailer question |
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I am purchasing a trailer to haul my M (n/f). The trailer manufacturer is recommending a landscape style loading ramp to accomodate the narrow front, as opposed to a third ramp. It's a 10,000 GVW trailer with a 4 ft tail and 5 foot ramps. So the the 2 outside ramps are latched in an upward position, but would be hard to latch the middle ramp.
My question - Would a landscape style ramp provide enough traction for loading the tractor? (Yes it is able to accomodate the weight.)
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showcrop Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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If you have loaded rears or wheel weights I bet you will bend that landscape gate right down to the ground. I don't think that your trailer guy has an appreciation for what you tractor weighs, but mostly I expect that he does not have the right trailer so he is trying to sell you what he has. Loading an NFE tractor on two ramps is no big deal, been doing it for many years. |
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KTNC Regular
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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The trailer is not yet built, he builds to the customer's specs...
How do you do it with 2 ramps? |
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uncle henry Regular
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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2x2x1/4 inch angle iron ramps is not big enough
either i horseshoed mine |
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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any one that loads a narrow front end tractor with just two ramps must have a death wish. have known a couple of guys who did that, no longer living because they were to tight to spend the money for a third ramp. |
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showcrop Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:12 am Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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| ramblineagle wrote: | | (quoted from post at 21:04:58 12/02/12) any one that loads a narrow front end tractor with just two ramps must have a death wish. have known a couple of guys who did that, no longer living because they were to tight to spend the money for a third ramp. |
A little hard to believe, LOL. I saw a friend that is about twenty years older than me do it, and my immediate thought was "Wow! Slick!" So I quit carrying that bending in the middle plank. I have been loading this way for about twelve years, for about fifteen trips or thirty load-ups a year. I will admit that it probably requires a little skill and experience and confidence, and of course all safe loading and driving practices still apply. There are many pitfalls in trailer loading and unloading to watch for. I once convinced a friend who was unchaining while sitting on a spot where his trailer leaned to both the rear and side, to move to a level place and walk a few more feet. |
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Chuck Heck Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:26 am Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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This Coyote trailer, made in Ohio, I ordered this spring works great for me!
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KTNC Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:42 am Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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Chuck,
So no problems with traction when loading? |
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Mike M Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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I made my middle ramp from small gauge rectangle tubing and some expanded metal over top. I had it attched to the trailer and folded it up and laid it flat onto the bevertail. It only stuck up a few inches so wide fronts you could just drive over it no need to fold it down. The few times I had a large load clear to the back I just chained the middle ramp up. |
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d beatty Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:09 am Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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Does the manufacture of the trailer your looking at offer a third ramp? I have the three ramps on my trailer and they are heavier than the landscape ramp also they can be moved and have spring assit.You can also get the ramps that stand up or the ones that fold over and lay on the beaver tail. |
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KTNC Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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D beatty -
Yes they know, their concern is the tail of the trailer is 4 ft and the ramps are 5ft, so too long to lay back. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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I have a 3ft. beaver with three spring assit 5 ft. standup ramps. My trailer is a 14,00o lb. PJ bumper pull 24ft. long,102 inchs wide and is a low profile. The rear of my trailer looks a lot the rear on the picture of mister Hecks trailer. only differance is that mine has the three stand up ramps. |
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DScott Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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| KTNC wrote: | (quoted from post at 16:26:03 12/02/12) I am purchasing a trailer to haul my M (n/f). The trailer manufacturer is recommending a landscape style loading ramp to accomodate the narrow front, as opposed to a third ramp. It's a 10,000 GVW trailer with a 4 ft tail and 5 foot ramps. So the the 2 outside ramps are latched in an upward position, but would be hard to latch the middle ramp.
My question - Would a landscape style ramp provide enough traction for loading the tractor? (Yes it is able to accomodate the weight.)
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A "landscape style ramp" is kind of vague but the ones I usually see look too light for a full size tractor in my opinion. Here is my story:
I had a trailer built several years ago with two regular spring loaded ramps. I had a third ramp added and fixed them so they all stood up and didn't use up space on the beaver tail. This worked OK but I got tired of lifting and lowering ramps as well as shoving them back and forth adjusting the width for different tractors and etc. So, I welded in a center section between the two out side ramps and made them one full width ramp. I then hooked up a small hydraulic pump and cylinder to raise and lower it. It is safer as I don't have to worry about lining up the wheels with a ramp and my back really appreciates not having to wrestle these things. I have used this set up for two years now and it works like a champ.
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MisterT Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:27 am Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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I sincerely question the 10,000# gvw. Considering that trailer itself will weigh in excess of 4,000#, and closer to 5,000# if it is a gooseneck, by the time you load a 5,000 to 6,000# Farmall M onto it, the trailer is going to be maxed out. Maybe even over-loaded.
Better go with a 14,000# gvw mimimum. |
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Chuck Heck Regular
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: Re: New Trailer question |
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So far no problems loading/unloading at all. This set-up works great for me! They have 2 heavy assist springs on each gate. Tractors I haul range from 3500 lbs. to 8000 lbs.
We also haul a lot of equipment for demos at shows. |
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