Yesterday's Tractor Co. Parts for Farm Tractors - Compare our Prices!
Click Here or call 800-853-2651 
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Wardner, 400 electrall


 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
D Slater
Tractor Guru


Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Posts: 3995


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:30 am    Post subject: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't think it made your expectations.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
nosih
Regular


Joined: 09 Jun 2008
Posts: 115


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I feel that the cancellation of the prior auction for editing was what killed it. People are easily put off by things like this, especially on ebay. Still worth alot more money than the ebay auction showed.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Wardner
Tractor Guru


Joined: 14 Dec 1999
Posts: 5376
Location: Tewksbury, MA 01876

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've been communicating with Mark since last summer. I put him in touch with a guy who has an extra gearbox. He is the same person who was arranging to have a new gear made using his existing gear as a model. The fabricator, one thousand miles away, does this on weekends and is dragging this job out. Says he needs some special tooling.

Mark hasn't conducted the sale of this tractor very well. I can't imagine anyone ending a high dollar auction like that at 23:00 PST. That tractor was only listed under Farmall>Parts and not tractors. Page views were half of the previous auction. Three bidders (out of 8 ) from the first auction didn't participate in the second auction. They were replaced with new blood.

Of course, the biggest problem was the missing idler gear. It must have been assumed that it was unobtainable or the seller would have secured one. Any full-time short-run gear hobber could make one. They could also make the more difficult one above it. I priced those two gears five years ago and I think the total was around $200-$250 for the pair in lots of ten. One idler by itself would be around $200.

About two days before, a similar good running 400 had a buy-it-now listed for $2500. It didn't sell. Maybe it's a poor time of year.

Mark says he needs the money. I expect the Electrall will be separated from the tractor, sold on eBay, and easily shipped on a pallet.

My estimate of $13,000-$15,000 was based on a comparable sale about three years ago. Somewhere in the upper midwest, an unrestored SMTA w/Electrall sold for $13,000 at a live auction. It went on the block with 10-12 other SMTAs at the owner's farm.

I had thought about bidding. Was thinking I could win the bid, store it at Mark's site till the RPRU, and haul it over to Ohio for a quick sale. Mark wouldn't tell me what the reserve was.

We will just have to wait to see what his next move is. Personally, I think he should let Aumann, Mecum, or Polk sell it because he has fumbled two auctions. But eBay can deliver the bids on rare items. It just takes two or three guys placing bids that "can't be beat" in the last five seconds.

<a href="http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Wardner/?action=view&current=Electrallcatalogandactual021.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Wardner/Electrallcatalogandactual021.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
 


Last edited by Wardner on Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
Wardner
Tractor Guru


Joined: 14 Dec 1999
Posts: 5376
Location: Tewksbury, MA 01876

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

NOSIH,

I was wondering who the high volume bidder (7300 transactions) on the first auction was. It must have been you.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
D Slater
Tractor Guru


Joined: 30 Jul 2007
Posts: 3995


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Noticed the interest fell off after the first auction was stopped. Think the market for high dollar tractors needing any work or others neeeding work is getting softer.
I hardly ever bid on a reserve tractor unless someone else passes the reserve and its still around the price I would give.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
nosih
Regular


Joined: 09 Jun 2008
Posts: 115


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

nope not me.. I just sold a side mount electrall..
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Wardner
Tractor Guru


Joined: 14 Dec 1999
Posts: 5376
Location: Tewksbury, MA 01876

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Always interested in what the market is for sidemount Electralls. Care to reveal the selling price?
 


Last edited by Wardner on Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile
nosih
Regular


Joined: 09 Jun 2008
Posts: 115


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I probably sold it too cheap, but I got $1250 out of a non working unit (may have worked, but would have needed some help). All I had was the tractor drive and electrall (missing the turnbuckle and tractor mount). I picked the unit up this summer at an old dealer estate sale, and everything was probably there, but things were scattered about so much that I was lucky to find the drive. The s/n was SM-19, and it sold to the first of over 250 unique callers..
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Markin mo
New User


Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 14


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Wardner, 400 electrall Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Really don't think I fumbled anything, from the people I have talked to, or that contacted me after the auction. If some one was seriously interested the time wouldn't have mattered. I think a soft market right now. I would not take the side mount off and sell it separately. I have no interest in doing that. As for what I am going to do next, I will contact the people that showed interest after the sale, and see just how really interested they are. Yes the interest fell off after the first auction, probably curiosity seekers, after all how many people knew what an Electrall even is?
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Farmall & International Harvester (IHC) All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
TRACTOR   PARTS TRACTOR   MANUALS
Same-Day Shipping! Most of our stocked parts ship the same day you order (M-F).  Expedited shipping available, just call!  Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors.  Compare our super low shipping rates!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  We are a Company you can trust and have generous return policies!   Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651.

YT Home  |  Forums Home

Copyright © 1997-2014 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters