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Dick2 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: Never saw this before.... |
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On my way to Physical Therapy this morning (in the dark), I saw 2 Ready-Mix trucks backed up in a vacant lot after a pour.
When I came back by an hour later, the trucks were gone and I saw that they had been cleaning out the mixer and dumping the left-over concrete and water into plastic kiddie pools. Is this now required by EPA? Maybe just a local town ordinance?
They used to just dump the waste on a vacant lot and let someone else clean it up. Maybe the contractor makes them dump in the kiddie pools? |
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Dalet Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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Wonder if there are bodies in those pools?  |
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Bob Huntress Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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If the kids were still in the kiddie pools when the cement was poured, it was a union job. |
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Keith Molden Long Time User
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 775 Location: Pomeroy, Ohio (Meigs County)
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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That's an E.P.A. thing now. You can put concrete in the ground (like in footers) but you have to do wash outs in containers. doesn't make a lot os sense to me, but that's what is required. Here in W.V. on our jobsite we use bales of hay or straw with plastic liners till it becomes solid, then we can dispose of it. They say that the water is harmful. Just a little more expense for construction all the time. Just my thoughts, (and we wonder why everybody is moving overseas) Keith |
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timcasbolt Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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Pretty sure there are more people moving in than out. |
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BIG RUH Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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There probably was if it was in the Chicago area |
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rabbit Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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So that"s what happened to Jimmy Hoffa! |
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Mike M Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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I like to make up 2x4 frame work and dump the left over in it to make concrete pads. These have came in handy for under several items and walkways. This is fine for the left overs but then you still need to wash everything up. Don't know if you can do that in our area anymore or not ? used to just run it onto the limestone driveway. |
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Dean Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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EPA insanity is boundless.
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jackinok Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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building a new building accross from ours,they had what looked like one of those one shot dumpster deals setup between four posts. labled truck washout or something of that nature. |
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Dick2 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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I was having lunch with my dealer that day in a restaurant less than a mile away from where they "grabbed" Jimmy. Didn't realize it until I saw the news the next morning. |
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Brian G. NY Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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Keith,
That water is harmful? How about all the $hit the gas companies are pumping into the ground in your neighbor state of Pennsylvania (soon to be NY)?
The concrete "rinsings" seem pretty harmless by comparison!!
The biggest of the corporations are running the country and that little requirement you have to deal with only justifies the existence of just one of our many guvment agencies that otherwise just "rolls over" on the real important issues!
JMHO |
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JD Seller Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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Brian G. you are welcome to find another country that you like better. I have not seen any laws that say you have to stay here and whine. I am equally sure that there will be ten people from those contries wanting to come here to take your spot. |
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TomH in PA Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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The water used for hydraulic fracturing is just brine with a little wetting agent in it. No one has ever shown it to be the lest bit harmful. |
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tomtirediron Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Never saw this before.... |
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Actually the washout can be discharged on site but it must go in a dry hole above the water table. The dried residue can then be buried- mixed in with other material ect. (considered inert) |
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