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Bud W
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I need to replace my starter on my SC. I see a bunch of new ones on Ebay for around $125. The tractor is started maybe 6 times a year so I'm trying to keep the cost down. My old one has been rebuilt before and I don't want to put $100 plus in it. Does anyone have experience with the ones on Ebay bad or good.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Flea-bay is buyer beware at best. If I where you I would check what this site has and maybe buy from this site then you know you have a warranty to fall back on of maybe even a local auto parts store
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote


you will be much better off to take your Delco starter to a starter repair shop and have it rebuilt. If you order from E-bay make sure you are not getting a chinese knock-off which will probably fail after 6 starts.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well I have bought several starters on eBay of Chinese mfg and they are lasting well. Some have been on for over 5 years with no problem. Most of the stuff you buy locally or from a dealer now are from China. IMHO
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does it REALLY need replaced???What is it NOT doing? I cannot see any parts that cannot be bought for less than a new,aftermarket "junk" one.

Open it up and look at it.Might be surprized to just find stuck brushes or something REALLY simple.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Agreed.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Removed the saddle switch and supplied 12 volts directly to starter contact and will not spin. Brushes look good. Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So you put battery to the starter but does it have a GOOD ground? I would check that and have the battery tested by whoever rebuilds the starter-yes, have yours rebuilt. Then it should last 50 more years.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you had a good connection to ground, I would guess that the solder let loose where the field connects to the stud. Take it apart & check it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All starters wear out, bearings, brushs, armature and field coils, BUT, the biggest problem with the starters on the C and smaller tractors is that they do not have a center bearing. Everyone talks about large battery, heavy cables but no one mentions the lack of that center bearing. When the bushings get a little loose that armature gets sucked over to the side and the starter draws a lot of extra current. The commutator end frame often does not have a replaceable bushing and the addition of a center bearing will make that much less important. I have repaired a lot of them over the last 50 plus years and adding the center bearing is the largest single improvement you can make. A C actually turns quite easily compared to an M. You will also find some H starters without center bearings. They don't work well at all. Next thing, the C and small tractors only have two field coils due to the light duty requirements. That is another mistake but harder to overcome. No reason a C won't spin over with good starter, 6 volt battery and decent cables. And get that ground cable out of the battery box to a decent ground.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

II don't understand this. You have a rebuilt starter on a tractor that gets started 6 times a year. How could that starter be worn out?
Have the starter tested. Or bench test it yourself. Takes all of 15 minutes to disassemble and check inside. I think you should look for a wiring problem that a newer starter will not cure.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This starter is the original starter that came with the tractor. It was supposedly " rebuilt " 12 yrs ago but frankly I didn't feel good about the guy that did the work. I'm pretty certain all he did was replace the brushes. So were talking about a 60 yr old tractor that my Dad bought new and farmed with for about 50 yrs.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would have your original rebuilt, the replacements offered today are not quite the same quality as your original.
http://www.mainelymagnetos.com/starters.html
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well after all this I found out that my battery was the culprit. I keep the tractor on a battery tender and had a green ( for full charge ) light. I also checked the voltage on the battery and it was a full 12 volts. With this data I assumed the battery was good. Turns out that as soon as I hit the starter the battery voltage drops below 10 volts. Although you would think 10 volts would be good to go on the 6 volt starter for some reason ( assume low amps ) it will not spin the starter. I jumped the starter from another battery and away it goes.
Thanks guys for all the input. I learned a lot.
Bud
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement Starters Reply to specific post Reply with quote

One thing I did that made a real difference, is run the ground strap directly from the battery right over to the starter mounting bolt. That eliminates lots of rusty joints and different ground paths, directly to the starter. Made a HUGE difference to my H, she really spins now.
 
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