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RayP(MI)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wife and I made a trip downstate today, one we make fairly often, especially during the holidays, on a fairly populated state highway. Noticed there was a general lack of Christmas light displays on people"s yards, houses compared with previous years. The few there were weren"t as grand and over the top as before either. One fellow used to outline his big 4wd Deere with lights, and have it drawn by a lighted reindeer. Not this year. Guess the economy and other factors have taken their toll here too.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think it is a couple of things, no matter who or how you voted for it went on for months, months and months.
Now that the election is over they are back to arguing over the Fiscal Cliff.

Finally it is the economy, this downturn has lasted far too long. Everything is getting more and more expensive, etc.

My thoughts anyway.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think it's just the mentality goes downhill each year as we get more politically correct.... Just had an invitation and a RSVP request for the "Holiday Party"... Mustered all my people skills and said I was gonna find a Christmas Party somewhere and give it my support...
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think there is a lot of discouragement. We are in a Depression, if not financally, emotionally.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When I was younger dad would always tell me to turn the light off in a room when I was leaving/done. Said it wastes electricity to leave the lights on when no one was in there.
I always pointed out the irony to him of his christmas lights. . . they would get turned on at night while we were inside the house and could not see them. Guess it was to put on a show for everyone else.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think you are correct in your thinking. ggp
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Saw a news story the other day about how a Christmas tree made it to the site where it was going to be displayed safely. What the hail are these idiots thinking? They cut the thing down, and are hanging it up like a trophy buck on display. IT'S DONE FOR!!!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Government, courts, politically correct idiots have driven the country secular & combine that with the downward spiral into socialism (read bad economy forever) & who is then in the mood to spend money to light up Christmas! Crying or Very sad
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'll try to check out McCool Junction, NE. That town always went berzerk over Christmas lights.

A few years ago, one resident actually filed a complaint with the police. Said the glare from his neighbor's Christmas lights, and the way they lit up the inside of his house, kept him from sleeping.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Variously defined, irreligion appears to be increasing (along with secularization generally), particularly in some Western countries. It is increasing in absolute numbers with overall population growth, but is decreasing as a percentage of the world population, due primarily to population increases in more religious developing countries outpacing population growth (or decline) in less religious developed countries. (See the geographic distribution of atheism.)

The American Religious Identification Survey gave nonreligious groups the largest gain in terms of absolute numbers: 14.3 million (8.4% of the population) to 29.4 million (14.1% of the population) for the period 1990–2001 in the U.S.[3][28] Reuters describes how a study profiling the "no religion" demographic found that the so-called "nones", at least in the U.S., are the fastest growing religious affiliation category.[32] This group consists of 33% agnostics, 33% theists, and 10% atheists.[1] A 2012 study by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life reports, "The number of Americans who do not identify with any religion continues to grow at a rapid pace. One-fifth of the U.S. public – and a third of adults under 30 – are religiously unaffiliated today, the highest percentages ever in Pew Research Center polling."[2]

A similar pattern has been found in other countries such as Australia, Canada, and Mexico. According to statistics in Canada, the number of "Nones" increased by about 60% between 1985 and 2004.[33] In Australia, census data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics give "no religion" the largest gains in absolute numbers over the 15 years from 1991 to 2006, from 2,948,888 (18.2% of the population that answered the question) to 3,706,555 (21.0% of the population that answered the question).[34] According to INEGI, in Mexico, the number of atheists grows annually by 5.2%, while the number of Catholics grows by 1.7%.[35][36] In New Zealand, over 34% of the population are irreligious making it largest percentage of total population in Oceania region.{{cndate=November 2012}
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Maybe some of it is due to the $0.15 per KWH we pay for electricity here in Michigan, some of the highest rates in the country. Maybe some of that is due to the 10% of power that we are supposed to get from "renewable" sources by 2015, per the statute passed by the tree huggers. Maybe?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's much easier to put up indoor Christmas decorations where the family members can enjoy them. Fewer outdoor light does not mean Christmas isn't being celebrated any less, it's just celebrated more personally rather than publicly.

Fewer outdoor Christmas lights has been a general trend for the last 10-12 years. Outdoor lights are expensive to buy, difficult to hang, more difficult and sometimes dangerous to take down in snow and ice and the light strings are less reliable than they used to be. A few years ago light strings would only last about 3 seasons outdoors.

Towns are also scaling back on their downtown lights. They decorate the street light poles but no longer string lights across the streets (too much damage to the light poles from ice and high wind).
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Then you have those that just go over board with crazy things like this.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have NEVER, EVER equated "Christmas lights" with "religion." To me--a guy who grew up poor-- they were a sign that you either owned stock in the electric utility, or you had more money than you knew how to spend wisely...or both. From what I read of the Nativity in the "good book," I don't think audacious and tasteless displays of lights had anything to do with the original event. In fact, I don't see any references there to Santa Claus or reindeer or sleighs, either. So I fail to see how a lack of those decorations has any correlation to a lack of "religiosity" in America [or elsewhere]...

At my house, I no longer decorate for Christmas...and here's why: in 1992, my first wife passed away 5 days after Christmas. After New Year's Day--and after the funeral--taking down those decorations was one of the most difficult and sad things I ever did. So no one else in my household has to go through that experience, I no longer decorate for Christmas.

And my lack of irrational, "celebratory" lighting has NOTHING to do with religion. But it has a LOT to do with NOT being wasteful of either electricity OR money.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Lack of Holiday Lites Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Marilyn wants to put lights up for the grandkids to enjoy so last evening we put string lights and a lighted wreath on the deck railing. Wouldn't bother me if we had no lights at all. Well, maybe a small 18" lighted christmas tree that we could pull out of a box already decorated and set it up in two minutes. Then we could put it back in the box in five minutes after christmas. Jim
 
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