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wilamayb
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

TX Jim,

It's our lucky day because there happens to be a bit of sales literature on the 46A loader on ebay. Check it out for yourself if you wish.

Accoding to Deere the 46A loader weighs 955 pounds with a hydraulic dump bucket and manure tines. I have a set of tines. They weigh more than 55 lbs without a doubt. That leaves the loader at less than 900 lbs.

It still say the loader will shine most when weighing the front tires with loader mounted with 1000 lbs in the bucket.

I'll still get you that pin to pin measurement soon on the 46A loader and the 148 loader. Just wanted you to see the literature on the 46A while it was on ebay so you know I'm not just pulling your chain.

BTW... We are flat out warm in Tennessee. That must mean you are wiping sweat in Texas? Ha ha ha
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It seems as if the lift capacities are as follows

Break out force:
46A 3000 LBS
148 4700 LBS

Rated lift
46A 2100 LBS
148 3100 LBS

This is your statement as copied from our earlier discussion:

"As I stated in the past I believe this forum should be about "real facts" not what someone "thinks or believes". Prove me wrong and I'll APOLOGIZE."


These are the numbers. They are facts, not my opinion.

I still stand by my first statement that the 46A is a smaller lighter loader than the 148 and is less taxing on the new gen frontends than the 148.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I do not want involved in any disputes but I agree that a 46A is more fitted to light work on a new generation(2510,2520,3010 or 3020) than a 148.Maybe I fixed to many broke off frame bolts in a 4010(they work loose and you do not know it because the loader mounting frame hides them).I like how the 46A pushes from the rear axle.But for heavy jobs the 148 is alot heavier loader and will take more abuse than a 46A.A 148 would be a better fit for a 4010,4020 or newer Deere.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

How about a JD 47 loader? Just bought a 2510 gas with one. Never seen them in any books. Iplan on just moving round bales with it. Neer seen any pics or stands for them
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check out this link... The 47 loader is covered in the same sales literature as the 46A
47 loader sales literature

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wilamayb wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:23:22 12/06/12) It seems as if the lift capacities are as follows

Break out force:
46A 3000 LBS
148 4700 LBS

Rated lift
46A 2100 LBS
148 3100 LBS

This is your statement as copied from our earlier discussion:

"As I stated in the past I believe this forum should be about "real facts" not what someone "thinks or believes". Prove me wrong and I'll APOLOGIZE."


These are the numbers. They are facts, not my opinion.

I still stand by my first statement that the 46A is a smaller lighter loader than the 148 and is less taxing on the new gen frontends than the 148.


Was the lift capacity you stated for the 46A on a loader with the smaller(2.25") or larger(2.5") cylinders that are comparable to a 148 loader??????? Also no matter which loader is on a tractor the taxing of the frt axle has a lot more variables in it than advertised lift or breakout weight capacity. It will be interesting to see the difference in the distances between(mast & bucket pins) on the 2 above mentioned loaders.
 


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

tomstractorsandtoys1 wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:38:43 12/06/12) I like how the 46A pushes from the rear axle.


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Actually the 46A pushes from the very front of the tractor plus the rear axle mounts.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes I know and those front bolts carry a fair amount of weight as I broke them off with a bucket full of manure once,thankfully it was on the wide front 3020 and not the narrow front as that would of been alot bigger problem.When we used 46A's for all our loader work we would change the front bolts once a year.Handling hi-moisture round bales was more than likely the cause.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 47 is Deere's first quick attach loader.They were nice to take on and off.Do you have the bracket that attaches to the engine head and goes to the rear of the loader mast?This makes the 47 a much more stable loader. Many 2510's are missing this bracket.The 47 with hard use can tear up the side frames if the mountng bolts work loose,when new Deere had a plate that went under the bolts behind the side frames.The 47 could also be used on the 1020 and 2020 tractors but you need different mounting brackets and the rear mast frame is different on the utilities.The 47 is a good match for a 2510 and makes a nice looking outfit.If you ever get a chance buy a broke up welded up 46A for parts as the cyclinders interchange.We have bought several loaders for the cyclinders and buckets then scrapped the rest.Also a 47 and 46A use the same buckets.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have had two 46As (with the larger cylinders) for a long time; 1st one was bought new in '65 with the first of our 4020s; second was bought used sometime in the '80s. Used 'em to feed silage (from 'pit' silos) 'til we quit silage and went to big round bales in '85 or '86. Took the buckets off and have had (homemade) bale forks on ever since. They'll handle a 24 inch/14 foot red oak log, but you don't wanna be bouncing around with it on there. Ended the problems with the front bracket bolts a looooooong time ago:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thurlow wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:52:50 12/07/12) They'll handle a 24 inch/14 foot red oak log, but you don't wanna be bouncing around with it on there.


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Do you think that 24" diam/14' log exceeded JD's advertised lift capacity for the 46A loader?? Wink
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't know exactly what they'll weigh, but according to my calculations, it'll be somewhere in the neighhood of 2700-2800#. My dad bought the first one (I was still working for him) and I don't remember why he chose that one; probably a combination of.....it fit the tractor/it was heavy enough for what he wanted and ...........it was easy on and off. They can be mounted/dis-mounted in 5 minutes or less. I bought the tractor and loader from his estate after he died.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:30 am    Post subject: Re: TX Jim 46A loader specs Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Also one of those mints think the Danberry one makes a 4010 and Elvis with a 46 A loader i have seen it on ebay a few times thought of buying for dad he has a 46A we use a lot for work around the yard and he used his entire farming years very good loader.
 
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