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SteveGr
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just saw a 4000 high platform tractor and was not aware they were even built. It appears to be a 65-67 model for it has louvers in the hood. Is this a rare tractor. It was very unique looking.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 4000 row crop (4200) was built from '67 through '75. The version wiht the louvered hood was only made from '67 to early '68, so it is at least somewhat rare.
Is the one you saw the one on ebay out east (VA?), a gas/Select-O-Speed? That would be a fairly rare combination of options, and since that would be a 192 gas, one I wouldn't pay much for.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes.
Generally called a 4200.
Came WF or Narrow.
Nothing about Ford is rare.
Some are less common.
Post 65 RCs fall in to the latter category.
Good folks here will guide me if I'm wrong but I think they came in 4,5,7000 configurations.
Maybe both Row Crop amd High Crop.
There was one on craigslist in Iowa this fall that looked pretty complete but not running.
If I had the dough I considered putting the platform stuff on my AP 4000.
It was a NF.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a thought here that you and I both might like to have the least valuable 4000 of all time.
Let's see: 4200, NF, 192 gasser with an SOS.
Smile
I didn't know they didn't come out till 67.
Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A 4200 has been on my wish list for a long time, as least as far back as high school when teh local dealer had a used gasser with a wide front and 8-speed. Don't remember if it was a 192 or 201 though. As long as I have my current 5 tractors, a NF would be OK... just a limited number of jobs I'd use it for. (no mowing or raking with a NF) 8-speed would be preferable, but I wouldn't pass on a SOS if the price was right. If I found a (cheap!) running 192 gasser, that would be OK too... until it came time for a rebuild... then it would 'become' a 201 diesel!
Had to pass on a rough running 192/8-speed/WF with a loader at an auction a couple months ago, even though the price was reasonable... just not enough cash on hand.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Somebody thinks they're rare.
4000 RC

 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not only does this guy think it's rare, take another look at the picture. I think it is a reverse image. Oil filter is on the right. It also has the wrong fenders for a 4200. They should be flat tops. Bet he keeps this one for a while.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

awhtx wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:15:34 12/09/12) Somebody thinks they're rare.
4000 RC


Naw! He just kept all of his receipts LOL.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Fordfarmer wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:05:31 12/09/12) A 4200 has been on my wish list for a long time, as least as far back as high school when teh local dealer had a used gasser with a wide front and 8-speed. Don't remember if it was a 192 or 201 though. As long as I have my current 5 tractors, a NF would be OK... just a limited number of jobs I'd use it for. (no mowing or raking with a NF) 8-speed would be preferable, but I wouldn't pass on a SOS if the price was right. If I found a (cheap!) running 192 gasser, that would be OK too... until it came time for a rebuild... then it would 'become' a 201 diesel!
Had to pass on a rough running 192/8-speed/WF with a loader at an auction a couple months ago, even though the price was reasonable... just not enough cash on hand.


Why not mow or rake with NFE? When I quit haying I may pay someone to let me rake their hay with my 901 or 971 D.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Showcrop,
When I mowed with a Haybine, I wanted the windrow to be nice and fluffy so that air could get through it. With a NF, you would be running right over the middle of the hay! I used a Ford 7000 Row crop for mowing with a IH 990 9 ft haybine.
Same with raking, you end up running over a lot more hay with a narrow front.
That said I raked most of my hay with a farmall H NF. I had super H gears in it and it raked a lot more hay on a tank of gas than my Ford 4000 would!
That is my experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Keith has it exactly. Here, it can be hard to get hay to dry - smashing it into the stubble makes it take too long. By the time we rake, the top part of the swath is often very dry, so tires running over it would crush the leaves, and they would be lost. This wouldn't be as much of an issue for grass hay, but we raise mostly legumes (clover, alfalfa, and trefoil) or legume/grass mixes. I could use a NF for raking hay for high moisture baling though... it would still be wet enough that the tires wouldn't affect anything.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have 4000 brochure of his rare tractor, and it came with round and flat fenders.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Your 4000 must be a gas... my 4600 (diesel) will rake on 3 QUARTS of fuel per hour. Don't think an H or Super H can touch that. Jubilee uses right about a gallon per hour for raking. Neighbor used a 5200 diesel, said it was right at a gallon an hour, too.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The literature shows the flat deck with the round fenders? I would have said that only flattops were correct for a RC, too. Can you scan and post that picture?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 4000 platform tractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You are exactly right!
Gas 1964 4000 with a 5 speed. 4th was too slow. 5th too fast. In the H with super h gears, 4th was just right.
One thing we always tried to do was rake early before the dew came off, or late after the dew fell. Didn't loose too many leaves that way. I could always bump the windrow over with the rake later without running over it.
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