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Earl T
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:19 am    Post subject: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have recently aquired some machinary from a Pole barn. The one thing is a JD 8300 Drill that is 13' planting width. It has the guage wheels and press wheels. It uses what I believe they call a double run metering system.

I already have a 8200 drill that is 10' wide that just uses the double disk openers and drag chains with a fluted meeting system. It does have a seeder on it that is not orginal to that drill.

If you guys were going to keep one, which one would you keep?

Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It depends on what you want to plant. The 8300 has more depth control and a press wheel to firm the soil around the seed but plants in 10" rows. The 10" rows are good for soybeans but to me not the best for wheat. The 8200 you can plant just about anything in narrower rows as well as grass seeds but you just dont get the depth control as the 8300. I have an 8300 and like it for beans but for wheat I would like to have an 8200 to plant with. If you grow wheat and bale the straw I would use the 8200 for better straw quality. Bandit
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dont know much about either drill...But to plant wider rows with the 7" drill.Simply block off(duct tape) every other hole.Double the rate on the drill chart to keep the seeding rate right.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Banditfarmer wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:46:09 12/10/12) . The 8300 has more depth control and a press wheel to firm the soil around the seed but plants in 10" rows. The 10" rows are good for soybeans but to me not the best for wheat. Bandit


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You're reading something from Earl's post that I don't see that deals with 10 inch rows. He stated he had a 10 ft 8200. The double run drill will plant seeds more precisely but is more complicated to set than a fluted feed drill. I've always heard bigger is better so I'd go with the model 8300 drill.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The gauge wheels and press wheels would be an advantage for better seed placement and coverage. My 8300 has neither, but I made a rubber tire packer to pull behind for better contact.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have owned both 8200 and 8300 drills; they were all fluted. Never failed to get a stand with either packing wheels or drag chains. I'd keep the one that worked for my operation..........can you handle/do you need the extra width?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Banditfarmer is right on this one. The 8300 drills with the "Tru-Vee" attachment were a 16x10 drill. They were only available in 10" spacing. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mike Aylward wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:08:19 12/10/12) Banditfarmer is right on this one. The 8300 drills with the "Tru-Vee" attachment were a 16x10 drill. They were only available in 10" spacing. Mike


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I'm curious how you know the drill in question is a Tru-vee instead of one of these options from Earl T's original post???
DEPTH BANDS
DEPTH GAUGING PRESS WHEEL
I guess the farmers in N. Texas were too poor as I've never personally seen Tru-vee disk openers on a grain drill.
 


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Having both drills would be good IMO. The double run is very good also and is gentle on larger seed. Nice to have a selection of equipment. Machines are going to become a much bigger $$ deal than they are now. I would keep them both if possible.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jim, I suppose I do not know 100% for sure. When Earl mentioned his drill had gauge wheels and press wheels like BF I assumed it was a Tru-Vee drill. Perhaps I presumed too soon. These drills were very popular in the late 70's and early 80's in this area to plant soybeans. They mimicked the 7000 planter depth system and worked fairly well. They only came in 10" spacing to allow clearance for the depth gauge wheels. Conventional depth bands and press wheels, while not unheard of, were not common, at least in this area. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey guys I posted a picture of the drill setup in the implement photos under 8300 drill. I have never been around one that has had these options on it. I will mainly be using it for wheat and some soybeans. The thing that makes this a little bit of a decision is that road travel is difficult with the wheels to the outside. So just seeing if you guys think the options this one has outweights the cons of the width. Just to place myself I am in northern Indiana.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Earl I looked at the photo and its a tru-vee set up and is a 16x10" rows. Now if you are moving it on the road alot or going through small gates then the 8200 is the drill you need. The 8300 holds about 36 bu and with its set up will plant beans with the best of them. But its like I said before its not the best for wheat. If it was me I would stay with the 8200 just for the fact that you are planting both wheat and beans. Bandit
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:46 am    Post subject: Re: JD Drills Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Mike
Sometimes it's better to be "lucky" because as the photo shows you were right. I guess this gets back to the old saying "a photo is worth a 1000 words". The only thing drills were used for in my neck of the woods was to plant small grains or Sudan so therefore no Tru-vees were ever sold here.
 
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