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Money Pit Regular
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:32 am Post subject: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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You guys nailed it; axle splines are past the hub face. first surprise: got the 2 inch socket breaker bar and ext pipes to break the nut loose it came off with small force on the bar alone. nowhere near 450 lbs. second surprise: jacked it up thinking if it was in that far i could rock it loose instead of doing figure 8's / hub puller / heat. i lucked out and it worked which tells me it really was not tight anyhow.
as long as i'll need the hub what else should i change while its apart? axle is hard so it should be ok? not getting any leakage so seals should be good. will i need to reshim the axle bearings? don't want to be going back into this in a year or two. thanks. |
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JMOR Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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| Money Pit wrote: | (quoted from post at 06:32:58 12/11/12) You guys nailed it; axle splines are past the hub face. first surprise: got the 2 inch socket breaker bar and ext pipes to break the nut loose it came off with small force on the bar alone. nowhere near 450 lbs. second surprise: jacked it up thinking if it was in that far i could rock it loose instead of doing figure 8's / hub puller / heat. i lucked out and it worked which tells me it really was not tight anyhow.
as long as i'll need the hub what else should i change while its apart? axle is hard so it should be ok? not getting any leakage so seals should be good. will i need to reshim the axle bearings? don't want to be going back into this in a year or two. thanks. | Removing & replacing the axle shims does not alter the bearing shim/tightness/looseness.....unaffected. |
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Hobo,NC Tractor Guru
Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 10611 Location: Sanford, NC
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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Don't be surprised if the axles are worn out ... I have never seen were a hub was flopping around that did not ware the axle also... |
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Dean Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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Agreed.
Perhaps you can get away with replacing the hub only but you will not know until you install a new hub.
Undersized hubs were once sold by Ford in several undersizes for situations such as this but these have been NLA for 25 years or more.
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carlntexas Regular
Joined: 26 Jan 2012 Posts: 140 Location: texas
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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Both my hubs were worn as bad as yours and axles were ok. If the axle is bad I would try the shim trick before buying an axle,but that's just me I'm cheap. |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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get the hub for now.
if you are lucky and the axle is not worn.. or not worn enough to make a difference.. you are at least good to go there. past that.. IF the axle is worn.. then you can burn that bridge when you see them splines on splines.. |
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Money Pit Regular
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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yes just getting a hub for now. i do respect the expirienced opinoins offered no doubt the axle could be a factor. hardened does not mean invincible.i'll know once it comes apart and i have the new hub in hand. maybe this weeknd i'll get my 2 hour brake job done. thanks again to all. |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Chamferd Brakes now Hub |
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that's how them 2hr jobs happen. open something easy up and see thet 99% has to come apart.. :)
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