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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Someone posted on here that they needed a gear for an early 1900's horse drawn manure spreader fixed or replaced. It looked like a fun project so I asked if I could do it. I gave them 2 options on how I thought I could do it and let them pick which they preferred. I thought it might me interesting to see how some of you might have handled this project. This is just for fun and one idea is as good as the next as far as I'm concerned.

They said they wanted it fixed as economically as possible and since they were going to be using the spreader beauty was less important than strength. Here are some pics of the gear when I got it. I will post pics of what I did and an explanation of why I did it the way I did after.


 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Guess I got the age wrong, it must be late 1800's here are some pics of the spreader.



 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Need torch , cast rod ,flux , and some pieces

out of a cast iron bath tub . That looks easy

compared to some of the manifolds I get.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well as the great repair man RED GREEN would say: This job might just require the good heavy duty DUCT tape" !!!!!


Seriously, I would preheat it and braise it with brass. Then slow cool it. That old cast iron/steel usually is pretty porous and will hold brass really good.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I well remember those cold metal seats in the winter time! It would have been much warmer if I could had rode one of the horses instead of setting on that metal seat.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would grind it to form a V....preheat.....braze.....cool slow. Brazing can allow you to feather into the sides easier than electric....Looking forward to finished pics.
Andy
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yup braze and brace.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Call me dumb, or maybe I didn't pay enough attention, but, do we have the rest of it somewhere? I'm really impressed at being able to fix it but having to fabricate the rest of it would be quite a task.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry folks, should have been more clear. here is nothing else, the missing parts need to be fabbed
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Having suffered through failures of repaired cast iron parts, and expecting that this would have to stand up to significant torque, I think that I would fabricate one out of some steel tubing and plate. It would take considerable planning but I would picture basically a hexagonal plate approx. 5/16 thick boxed with 5/16 rectangular pieces on one side and 5/16 basically triangular pieces on the other side that would weld up to the rectangular pieces and the base plate.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

NICE old spreader! I vote for Showcrop's idea. That would be the quickest and surest for me.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think I'd find another sprocket, even if it meant replacing the other one and the chain.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Oh....you don't have the rest of it....crap. Whats the chain that runs on it look like and could you spin the gear 90 degrees so we can see the original form please?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

that's all the pics I have prior to the repair. sorry. You have more info than I did when I started because I didn't get pics of the spreader til after they got the gear back on. lol
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: How would you fix this? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry that's all I have before the repair. The
center web is about 3/8" thick and cross pcs are
bout 5/16", the tabs about 1/8". That's more info
than I had because I didn't get a pic of the
spreader til got the gear back and installed. lol
 
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