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Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:03 pm    Post subject: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would imagine this has been asked a million times, but here goes. I have found a very nice AC model B. I does not have electric start. Or for that, not even an electrical lighting system. What all is involved to adding a starter. I see that the torque tubes are different. How hard to find and how expensive to add. The electrical system itself is no real biggie to wire. But I"m going to need either a generator or alternator and bracket. I"m sure a different flywheel will be in order too. The tractor had a cosmetic restoration several years ago. The tires are almost new. It starts easy enough. A couple of 2 or 3 cranks is all it takes. I can probably buy it for $600.00. But I don"t care for a hand crank engine. Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does the engine block have the tapped bosses for the generator mount? Seems that I recall seeing some early Bs and/or Cs that did not have those bolt holes. And does it have hand brakes?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have all of the parts you would need except for a starter. All can be mailed except the torque tube, which is too heavy. I am in northern NY state. Send me an email if you are interested in parts.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I do not know about the bolt holes. The tractor has foot operated brakes. I wrote the serial number down when I went to look at it. Can't seem to locate it now. Which side of the engine would the generator mount?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A lot depends on where you are. The torque tube is heavy as in the flywheel so shipping could be a big problem. I also have most if not all you need on hand but I am in Missouri
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks. I haven't bought it yet. Trying to figure out if the tractor's worth the trouble. I'm a Farmall and Deere man. But I've always liked the power the older AC's had.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The alt/gen mounts on the same side as the clutch peddle. The one I have does not have the bolt holes in the block for the gen. Someone converted this to electric start and mounted a generator under the seat. It runs off the pto shaft.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a torque tube from a CA that would work. Located in NE Ohio $50.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks, Ted.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you are prob going to need engine block, yours prob does not have holes for generator mount.If you haven"t bought it pass on it till you find a electric start one. Somebody else would prob like a nice origional hand start B that hasn"t been peiced together.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Look locally their a dime a dozen,would be a easy fix.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

generator mounts to the left side, pulley in line with the fan belt. I have center punched the hole locations by comparing to another block, then drill and tap right thru the block. I loctite a stud in the two holes, and mount the generator bracket to it... no problem. YOu need a longer fan belt.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

as long as your at it, mount an alternator and 12 volt system.

1940 Orchard B, OB made from B Allis- now wiht FORD mower deck
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey steve is that a home made IB?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis Chalmers B Electric start conversion. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey steve is that a home made IB?
 
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