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townsend2 New User
Joined: 18 Dec 2012 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: ford 4000 gas |
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tractor shuts off when working and will not restart untill it sits for awhile any ideas on why thought vaper lock ran with cap loose and it still does it |
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Fordfarmer Tractor Guru
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 6601 Location: Ladysmith, WI
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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3 or 4 cylinder 4000?
My first thought would be the ignition switch, if it's a 4-cylinder. Could also be a coil going bad, on either model. |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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the best way to figure out what's wrong is to actually DIAGNOSE it.
1, it helps us to know 2 cyl or 4. the 4 have a very basic fuel system.. the 3 are much mroe complicated with a pump, different routing and a cantankerous carb.
past that.
at moment of death and during restart attempts when it won't start. does it have spark? good spark?
if yes.. move on to fuel.. specifically fuel flow.. they won't run with an empty carb.
if it don't have spark.. hotwire coil.. if nada still.. check points, feel coil.. .. use ohm meter on connections with power unhooked to look for shorts, and if points open and close. check continuity on secondary and primary of coil.. check dizzy feed thur insulator.. make sure condensor is not shorting ( rare ) but happens.
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Larry NCKS Tractor Guru
Joined: 23 Dec 2001 Posts: 3733 Location: Washington, KS/Lincoln, NE
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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| soundguy wrote: | (quoted from post at 18:05:40 12/18/12) the best way to figure out what's wrong is to actually DIAGNOSE it.
1, it helps us to know 2 cyl or 4.
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didn't ford made a 2 cyl 4000.  |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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i hope / think everybody knows by now that I don't have a computer and instead get connectivity from small mobile devices that don't have real keyboards.
typo's are gonna happen. |
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Larry NCKS Tractor Guru
Joined: 23 Dec 2001 Posts: 3733 Location: Washington, KS/Lincoln, NE
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:46 am Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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| soundguy wrote: | (quoted from post at 20:45:48 12/18/12) i hope / think everybody knows by now that I don't have a computer and instead get connectivity from small mobile devices that don't have real keyboards.
typo's are gonna happen. |
I did not know that. How would I or everybody know that?
And yes . . . I knew it was a typo . . . but still think it's funny! |
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JMOR Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:57 am Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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| Larry NCKS wrote: | (quoted from post at 21:08:26 12/18/12) | soundguy wrote: | (quoted from post at 18:05:40 12/18/12) the best way to figure out what's wrong is to actually DIAGNOSE it.
1, it helps us to know 2 cyl or 4.
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didn't ford made a 2 cyl 4000.  | I think they painted those 'green'.  |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:06 am Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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I've mentioned it many, many, many times over the last couple years.
My 'largest' machine is a netbook.. not even a large netbook.. it's one of the subcompact 'thin' ones about the size of a paperback book. Otherwise i'm on an iphone or similar other tablet or handheld device. None with real keyboards or mouse.. just the funny touch sensitive stuff. Even at 'work' our devices are ipads or that netbook i carry. |
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townsend2 New User
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:11 am Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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it is 3 cylinder and it had no spark put new coil on still did not start tractor sat for about an hour turned the key and it started |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:18 am Post subject: Re: ford 4000 gas |
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ok.. 3 cyl. had no spark.
you changed coil.
then you say no start.. but you don't say if it had spark and did not start.. or did not have spark. if it had spark but no start.. look at fuel. if it did not have spark, and setting helps, then look at ignition switch. which is why i said to hotwire coil... it bypasses ignition switch.
go back and do the checks again, as I mentioned in my first post.
you have to be systamatic in troubleshooting. you can't take a list of 6 things, pick the 2 out you like, and forget the rest.
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