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Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:48 am    Post subject: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Been stripping down a Cockshutt 30 for paint. Engine had a coat of red but in process of stripping paint it became obvious that the engine had originaly been painted Co-op orange. Was wondering if theres a way to tell if this was the original engine and just a prepainted Co-op engine installed at factory or if engine has been changed previously and came from a Co-op tractor. Rocko.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Rocko wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:48:08 12/21/12) Been stripping down a Cockshutt 30 for paint. Engine had a coat of red but in process of stripping paint it became obvious that the engine had originaly been painted Co-op orange. Was wondering if theres a way to tell if this was the original engine and just a prepainted Co-op engine installed at factory or if engine has been changed previously and came from a Co-op tractor. Rocko.


I don't know but I am finding a lot of orange paint underneath the red on my Cockshutt 40. Who knows? The only difference between Co-op and Cockshutt in that series was the paint and decals anyway.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That"s all it is just paint and decals
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes realize paint, decals and GRILL CENTER piece were the only differences. From what I've read there not even any ryhme or reason to serial numbers when they came off the line. Was wondering more about Buda say pre painting engines, factory line process of painting and assembly and perhaps if an engine serial # can be traced to a tractor serial #. Not overly concerned about it, I got what I got. Like I said just curious. Rocko.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Cockshutt used an orange primer under the red paint on all of their round nosed tractors. Some say that the Co-ops only received the primer coat and that is why they had more of a "duller" finish when new. They also claim that is why original Co-ops now, in general, have rustier sheet metal than Cockshutts.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Old-N-Grumpy wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:03:46 12/21/12) Cockshutt used an orange primer under the red paint on all of their round nosed tractors. Some say that the Co-ops only received the primer coat and that is why they had more of a "duller" finish when new. They also claim that is why original Co-ops now, in general, have rustier sheet metal than Cockshutts.


Interesting. You would think that somewhere, someone might have a listing of which tractors were sold as Cockshutts and which ones as Co-op. The original bill of sale would have stated but of course not likely many of those survived.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Don't forget the Cockshutt 30 sold through the Gambles hardware store. They called it the Gambles Farmcrest. It's really too bad that the serial numbers weren't registered somewhere that said specifically what make and model was assigned to each serial number, even if they did eventually get repainted and re-decaled.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Just curious Co-op/ Cockshutt engine Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The orange primer theory would explain my situation- My Cockshutt has orange under the red, but its a 35, so could never have been a Co-op.
 
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