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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looked at harbor freights 20cubic foot argon tank they wants 100 bucks thought it was way to small, I really don"t wanna lease one.. Found one in eBay 55cubic foot for 92 bucks.. Is that big enough? I"m just hobby welding, please give me some input..
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Get at least an 80 cu. ft. cylinder but make sure it can be exchanged at the welding supply. A 122 cu. ft. would be even better. The difference in cost to fill between them is minimal as it takes the same labor to hook up them up to fill.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

what should an 80 or 122 cubic foot tank cost?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Why not lease one?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not a lot of places sell them but an 80 up here is $286 full and a 122 is $325 full. The cylinders are exchanged when they run out and you don't have to pay for any hydro-testing. The fill plant looks after that. You can use a tank, in your possession, past the date but the fill plant can't fill after it's expired until it is re-tested.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Most of the time buying them out right, would have saved money by the time the 3rd. year lease is payed. After that no more fee's other than getting refills.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Can i buy this tank and use it?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jin
Where I live, the boys told me I could own an 80 ft tank but would have to lease anything bigger.

Can't remember what I paid for tank and gas, but I bought the 80 ft tank. Don't use my mig that much. Still on the first bottle. Guess if you don't use it, you won't lose it, unless you forget to turn the tank off.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is there a difference in an Argon and a Oxygen tank? Am familuar with the oxygen as have had the cutting torch for 30+ years but know nothing about the argon gas or what it is used for.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You certainly can buy it and use it until it's empty. The issue is whether you can get it refilled. You need to check with whoever you would be taking it to for refilling to see if they're going to go for it. There are lots and lots of stolen rental tanks around, and companies who sell, lease, and refill tanks take a dim view of the situation. You're dead in the water if nobody will refill it for you.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think the tanks are identical. Both are high pressure tanks which contain compressed gas which does not liquify under pressure. I don't think either gas contaminates the other to make the tanks non-interchangeable, but I could be mistaken about that.

Argon is an inert gas, the third most common gas in our atmosphere despite existing in minute quantities, which is used as a shielding gas in its pure form in GTAW (TIG) welding, and mixed with CO2, and sometimes with small amounts of oxygen, as a shielding gas for GMAW (MIG) welding. A mixture of 75% argon, 25% CO2 is a joy to weld with in GMAW, much nicer than pure CO2.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't remember what I paid for my tanks, but when I bought them I asked how long to rent them before they are paid for. 2-years. I have a C-25, argon, and oxygen that are 250. My acetylene and helium bottles are 135, not shown in this picture.


 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ifya look at welding supply dot com they sell bottles delivered full at about the best price. Then you can take the new bottle and start it in rotation for a refill at any welding shop or napa auto parts in town when it runs out. me, I bought 2 so I don't run out.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

footin mouth wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:14:11 12/24/12) ifya look at welding supply dot com they sell bottles delivered full at about the best price. Then you can take the new bottle and start it in rotation for a refill at any welding shop or napa auto parts in town when it runs out. me, I bought 2 so I don't run out.


footin mouth, I wouldn't bet the farm on that! Every location is different!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Argon tank questions? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is no name on the ring so you should be able to have it refilled with Oxygen. For Argon you need a new valve and a retest to switch the service to Argon,.
 
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