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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:46 am    Post subject: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Will any other engine fit in place of a worn out 359T? Was wondering about a 466 . . .the 359 was always underpowered anyway for that machine. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

check out the 414 engine i think its a bolt in
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What is that used in, any idea?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Any of the 329-359=414 engine family will fit, I have put a few 329"s in 544"s and they work out okay, there are several of those loaders around here that I take care of,,, as for tractor engines 4030,2940,2950,2955 all will inter change
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Those are all Dubuque built engines, correct? Didnt the 4400 diesel combines use a 329 also? Those seemed like good engines.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A combine engine would be a cheap easy way back up and running again. I think some,but not all of the 6600 combines had that engine too.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes all the 4400 diesels were 329's and some early 6600's were too,,that's what I have been putting into some of these old ones around here, they work out good, most of them are used in auto salvage yards and a few saw mills.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Mike I think your right. I think the early level land 6600s did use that engine. Yes it would be cheap and easy. The engine thats in it is factory turbocharged. I dont believe anything less would be that great though. It sees heavy use and those transmissions really seem to demand power. Also, the hyd load on the engine just adds insult to injury. I know this is no comparison, but I operated a 644 J once, that was a beast and the shift was way improved over the E series. Was fun to run and then some. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I put the turbo stuff over on the donor engine, they actually feel decent in power, of course the original engines were tired before the swap, so anything was better, and the owners wallet felt better too...
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Isnt the 414 and 6.8L or 6068 the same engines, except for maybe the newest powertech common rail fuel system engines? Most were used in power units:air compressor,generators, etc. maybe look on websites such as machinery trader or something like that for used ones for sale.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

bigboreG
Here's some of the equipment with a 414 cid engine.
If you go to JDparts.com and in equip. search type in "6068" a very long list of equipment applications will pop up.

1403 - 544B Loader - 18Jan11
1471 - 6414D and 6414T OEM Engines and Accessories - 21Nov12
1518 - 640 Log Skidder and Grapple Log Skidder - 30Aug06
1522 - 755 Crawler Loader - 06Nov06
1620 - 670A, 672A, and 670A, 672A (Automatic Blade Control System) Graders - 24Apr08
1715 - 755A Crawler Loader - 06Nov06
1832 - 655 Crawler Loader - 06Nov06
1884 - 750 Crawler Bulldozer - 06Nov06
1978 - 640D Log Skidder and 648D Grapple Log Skidder - 07Nov06
2040 - 655B Crawler Loader - 10Jul09
2041 - 750B Crawler Bulldozer - 09Jul08
2042 - 755B Crawler Loader - 11Mar09
2063 - 670B and 672B Motor Graders - 17May12
2151 - 690D and 690DR Excavators, 693D Feller Buncher - 23Apr07
2170 - 544E and 624E Loaders, 544E TC Tool Carriers and 544E LL Log Loader - 07Jul11
2180 - 9400 Maximizer Combine - 20Dec12
2184 - 643 Feller Buncher - 09Nov06
2311 - 643D Feller Buncher - 16Feb12
2312 - 540E, 640E, 740E Skidders and 548E, 648E, 748E Grapple Skidders - 13Jun11
2326 - 790ELC Excavator - 07Oct11
2331 - 690ELC Excavator - 04Dec12
2364 - 544G and 624G Loaders, 544G TC Tool Carrier and 544G LL Log Loader - 17May12
2509 - 750C and 850C Crawler Bulldozer(S.N. -883331) - 11Aug11
2515 - 540G, 640G, 740G Skidders and 548G, 648G, 748G Grapple Skidders (s.n. -565684) - 09Dec11
 


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This one has a 329 combine engine natural aspirated it does a good job, these old loaders are just a bit "Doggy" acting anyway with the way the torq converter is.

 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would find a wore out 7700 turbo combine and put that engine in there. A step up in power for the payloader and its a 414 so it should bolt in.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No, a 7700 turbo engine is a 404, it won't bolt up,,it would be nice if it would..
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: 544 E Payloader Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dalet wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:30:08 12/29/12) I would find a wore out 7700 turbo combine and put that engine in there. A step up in power for the payloader and its a 414 so it should bolt in.


According to parts catalog #1167 the 7700 combine had a 6404 which won't interchange with a 6414
 
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