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RalphWD45
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I pulled the engine on my wd45, to replace the clutch and pressure plate, and got side tracked on clean up, of the frame and tranny area. While the motor is out I am replacing the seal on the jack shaft, between the bell housing, and the belt pulley gear compartment. I removed the plate over the belt pulley gear, to see if I could push the old seal out that way,( you can't)Sure enough I got dirt down in the chamber, and got me 3' of 3/8 air hose, and tried to suck the dirty oil up thru the hose and hold my tounge over the end, till I could put the other end in a coffee can to drain it.5 or 6 hose fulls, and each time getting some HY TRAN in my mouth, and I realised that I wasn't making any head way.I looked under it and removed a plug I found thare, and it drained out for me. It seems that every unit in trhe string there share the same oil. I am guessing that 5 gal of HY TRAN is not going to be enough, to replace all compartments. I see white (rainwater) in my oil, and will change it all the way back. Better order a new rubber shifter boot also. How come whining don't make me feel better? I do hate to buy oil!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I agree good oil is not cheap, but after my vehicles and equipment have new oil in them it sure makes me feel like I'm doing doing the right thing to keep them running longer! Plus it's still cheaper than having to buy new equipment!

BTW Mobil One is my preferred motor oil. I feel it's better in the cold climate.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ralph
First off, there is no need for Hy-Tran in a WD or WD45.
Forward most compartment/drain is the hyd & belt pulley drive area. Uses regular hyd oil, doesn't need hy-tran as no heavy loads here. The filler for this area is the one on left side, by clutch pedal, with a dipstick under the cap. Don't remember how much it holds.
Second, third, & fourth drain are PTO, hand clutch, trans, & diff, all connected. Use regular gl 1 or gl 5, 80W-90, or even 80W-140. IIRC takes 17 quarts. Two filler plugs, 3/4 square heads along left side of trans/diff case. Hint- if you don'thave an 8 point socket for square headed bolts or pipe plugs, use a 12 point socket 1/8 larger than the square: 5/8 12 pt fits 1/2 sq, 7/8 12 point fits 3/4 sq, etc. Can fill completely using one fill plug, but takes a long time for oil to flow past divider, quicker to fill both plugs.
Caution- PTO housing is the lowest point, any water from condensation will collect here. If it freezes it will break & push the bottom right off.

Might not need to buy new oil. If not excess water in it, filter it thru one of those red gas funnels, with the brass screen. I have one that the screen is fine enuff that it will let gas thru, but not water.
I'm aware you knew all this, but might be handy for some of the newbies out there. How's that for a disclaimer?
Willie
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hy Tran might be over kill for an old WD, but is the cheapest way to get good oil in all the holes. As always, a good operators manual will tell you where, what, and how much oil to use.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ralph., I use 303tractor fluid from O'Rielly in my WD45 for the hydrolic system and 80w90 inn the rear end.

Leonard
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The last time, (2 yrs ago), I went to wally world, and got 5 gal of HYtRAN, which beat NAPA's prices considerably. It seems to be light enough, to make for less creep with my hand clutch in cool conditions.80-90 has its place, and provides good wear protection, but I dont care for the increased drag when cold.My rear end gets by on it, and also the finals.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

AaRON! Those good operator manuals, seem to only get opened, when you don't think you understand something! How many of us think we know our machines, and blunder ahead, till we hit a stump?I am guilty as charged!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

After a couple mouthfulls of hytran, likely you'll stop whinin, and start runnin! Immodium's the stuff to stop it!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Rain Water in the engine oil..???

Bet it is just a simple crack in the 1-3 Web, between sleeves...
Not a big deal, just go after it by cleaning the inside of the water jacket (remove the freeze-plugs)..Clean it well, flush it out and Dry it..
Then pour in enough Non-hardening Permatex to coat the entire floor of the water jacket..completely around every sleeve..
Won't leak there again..

Ron..
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Too many oil compartments! Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Next time try firing up your compressor and use an gun to blow air across the end of the hose, unless you really like the taste of that hose.
 
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