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Cameron Duncan Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: Hydraulic lift piston |
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Fighting a hydraulic problem replacing as I go.
Changed the pump, cleaned out sludge and old fluid,
now on hydraulic lift piston. I bought a new piston
with a single o-ring and leather backing ring to
replace the original 3-iron ring piston. Any
suggestion on getting the leather ring into it's
position? Thought about soaking in very hot water to
loosten it to slide on. |
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HCooke Tractor Expert
Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 3325 Location: Missouri
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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"Thought about soaking in very hot water to
loosten it to slide on."
Yep. Oring goes toward the oil. Leather backup ring goes on the side away from the oil. |
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NOXJohn Long Time User
Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 1276
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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I always soak in warm/hot oil not water. The warm oil makes the leather expand and help lube it when sliding on. |
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old Tractor Guru
Joined: 12 Mar 2000 Posts: 50680 Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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There are 2 types of back up rings. One is made of leather and the other rubber I prefer the rubber ones. Easier to put on and been told they hold up a lot longer |
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Cameron Duncan Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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Thanks but I already have the leather as per man. rec. so I'll have to try to use it or wait 2 more weeks for a replacement. |
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Cameron Duncan Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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Thanks, that makes sense, I'll try that. |
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mbramble Regular
Joined: 05 Nov 2011 Posts: 260 Location: Cantonment, FL
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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| Cameron Duncan wrote: | | (quoted from post at 13:36:23 12/31/12) Thanks but I already have the leather as per man. rec. so I'll have to try to use it or wait 2 more weeks for a replacement. |
If you end up needing the rubber one, send me your address via e-mail and I will send you one.
Mike
mike@bramblett.com |
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L. B, Regular
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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The leather is per manuf,as it should be a wiper. No? |
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TheOldHokie Tractor Guru
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 5914 Location: Myersville, MD
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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| L. B, wrote: | | (quoted from post at 18:01:04 12/31/12) The leather is per manuf,as it should be a wiper. No? |
No - it is not a wiper. It is a backup ring that supports the backside of the o-ring to help prevent extrusion under pressure. The hard rubber or PTFE versions probably work better.
TOH |
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old Tractor Guru
Joined: 12 Mar 2000 Posts: 50680 Location: Lake of the Ozarks area of MO
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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Wait 2 weeks. What don't you have any tractor dealers close to you??. Shoot the last time I got the NAA piston and all I called the dealer and they had them on hand. I could have had it sent for an extra $10 or drive 40 miles one way so I ordered it and had it in 2 days |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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soak it in hot water. ( real hot ) for 5 minutes.. then lube with some oil.. and then use 2 spoons ( eatin' spoons ) and walk it on like you were beading a tire on a rim..
leather are mostly what I've used. they worked for 50-60 years.. can't be that bad... I HAVE used the rubber ones. they DO go on easier, and have a cup side.. i won't be alive in 50-60 ys to see if they hold up the same as the leather ones.. so don't matter to me..  |
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L. B. New User
Joined: 16 Jun 2012 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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Okee-doe-kee OldHokie |
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FiremanKyle Regular
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 79 Location: Saginaw, MI
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Hydraulic lift piston |
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Seen this link on O-Ring vs Steel Rings...
Hydraulic Cylinder post
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