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Richard from SE AZ Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:06 am Post subject: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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Seems like the tractor jacks made to lift all 4 tires at once using the lift are really sought after. I would love to have one myself. Why do you suppose no one with the skill and expertese to do so is making them? My be a money maker for someone. I don't trust my welding enough to do so. |
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Royse Tractor Expert
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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I would be afraid of the liability.
I'm certainly no lawyer, but if I was going to do something like
that I would want to consult one about limiting the liability.
Maybe I'm a coward, but I've worked hard for what I have. |
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ericlb Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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id say liability too, also some 'welders' lack the training to weld the parts properly, they look good but arnt myself i do weld but i sure wouldnt want my tractor up on any jack that i welded, i can build fence and fix stuff but i know my limits too plus using one of these jacks requires the user to use common sense, and thats rare today |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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There are times I wish I had one to look at and then copy. Know I could build one with no problem. As for liability to are many ways around that loop hole |
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Ken(Ark) Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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| Richard from SE AZ wrote: |
Why do you suppose no one with the skill and expertise to do so is making them? May be a money maker for someone.
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The price of steel , supplies , labor , and overhead (insurance for one ) is one factor .
Another factor is a person with the where with all to build quality tractor stands can spend that time on better paying projects .
Set up time for one unit would be a couple hundred bucks . If you sold ten jacks , you could earn $15 an hour as an estimate . I don't think the market would support 100 units . Maybe someone like Red Rock Manufacturing could add this to their list , but I would think $200 plus would be the price .
It would be a labor of love for the N tractors that will find a builder . Just like rebuilding carbs or hydraulic accessories , it is not a big money maker but more of a hobby that you break even (if your lucky) |
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Ken(Ark) Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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| old wrote: | | (quoted from post at 15:29:37 01/01/13) There are times I wish I had one to look at and then copy. Know I could build one with no problem. |
http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=965771
The other site has lots of building plans in the how to section . |
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Den N Ms Tractor Expert
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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Ken,I think you have it down pat.Also you would be lucky if you could make a $1.OO after the cost of steel,chain/electric,welding rods/wire/gas and your time. |
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L. B, Regular
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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Again, liability. I may be wrong but I think it was made only to adjust and set the wheels width for row crops or terrain to be farmed. Its not to change the oil or anything like that as all the fluids can be drained as it stands. I bet somewhere there is an instruction manual that says don't get under the tractor while using this jack. Dell has the old books on this I think. |
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TheOldHokie Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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| L. B, wrote: | | (quoted from post at 16:09:44 01/01/13) Again, liability. I may be wrong but I think it was made only to adjust and set the wheels width for row crops or terrain to be farmed. Its not to change the oil or anything like that as all the fluids can be drained as it stands. I bet somewhere there is an instruction manual that says don't get under the tractor while using this jack. Dell has the old books on this I think. |
Stupidity of the end user won't protect you in a liabilty law suit. That said you have $50+ just in the tubing before you even get started. At a modest $25/hour labor the price gets well up there real quick. And then you have to ship a bulky heavy item.....
TOH |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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To bad you didn't put it more like this
Jack plans??
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Ken(Ark) Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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| old wrote: | (quoted from post at 18:54:19 01/01/13) To bad you didn't put it more like this
Jack plans??
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Too bad your link doesn't work , he he . I have not figured out how to add text in place of the link , still trying .
http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=965771 |
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Ken(Ark) Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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| Ken(Ark) wrote: | (quoted from post at 19:44:17 01/01/13) | old wrote: | (quoted from post at 18:54:19 01/01/13) To bad you didn't put it more like this
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Too bad your link doesn't work , he he . I have not figured out how to add text in place of the link , still trying .
http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=965771 |
Maybe this will work ?
JACK PLANS |
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Royse Tractor Expert
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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Yep, you got it. |
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Fuddy Duddy Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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I'm wondering if this post took off from my post to the post below? If they will sell for $609.01 including shipping there seems there is room for someone to make money making them. Surely you could get a lawyer to make up a disclaimer to release you from any liability as long as you made a quality product. There is not that much to one, Shouldn't be that hard to produce one at a fair price and not get sued for doing so.
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TheOldHokie Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Tractor jack, Welders read this |
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| Fuddy Duddy wrote: | (quoted from post at 21:08:45 01/01/13) I'm wondering if this post took off from my post to the post below? If they will sell for $609.01 including shipping there seems there is room for someone to make money making them. Surely you could get a lawyer to make up a disclaimer to release you from any liability as long as you made a quality product. There is not that much to one, Shouldn't be that hard to produce one at a fair price and not get sued for doing so.
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Well that price is insane. I'd make a repop for anyone that wanted one for half that.
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