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L. B,

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: For Old Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey Old, I have Kats block heaters in all my trucks Blazers and even my 4 hole Saturn. My Ns have had L/rad. hose heaters and one has a head to block Kats. You said that a block heater would not, and no way fit in an N. Well you could have knocked me over with a feather, I never gave it much thought when I looked for one and no can find.Is it because of the length of the heating element and the water jacket is too narrow? Or freeze plug locations? I did find Kats 28mm screw in that has an internal element if ya wanted to tap low in the block, but I wont be the one to experiment on. So did you find out the hard way that a freeze plug block heater wont work on an N? Thanks for the heads up.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: For Old Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There are 2 types of plugs. The one they used on the N blocks don't work with a heater. I should say that the block is different & won't accept a heater. Clear as mud?
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Paul in Edmonton

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: For Old Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My wife's car has an oil pan heater--basically glued onto the bottom of the oil pan. That was installed when the block heater failed, and the shop said that attempting to remove it for replacement had a risk of wrecking the block...

It seems to work just fine in cold weather. It applies the heat closer to where it's needed (i.e. in the oil) than a block heater.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: For Old Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The location of the freeze plugs and the cylinders etc just do not allow enough room for a block type coolant heater and would you believe I do not know that first hand but Dell has said it many time on here as have one or 2 others. I have never tried to put any type of heater on an N series tractor because I have never used my 8N in winter so do not need it but being a retired truck driver I know the coolant heater is the best way to go and those cause the least amount of problems. Oil pan heaters while type do heat the oil does not help a lot because the oil is in the pan and some have been known to even burn the oil and burned oil is bad news for an engine
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Harold Kutzler

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: For Old Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Kats used to make a headbolt heater that screws in place of the center of headbolt on the rear of the engine . I have one on my 48 8n ford tractor and it works fine. I wish somebody could get Kats to make them again
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