Yesterday's Tractor Co. Parts for Farm Tractors - Compare our Prices!
Click Here or call 800-853-2651 
   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 9N,2N,8N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   Traditional YT Forum ViewClassic View   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

No Cheap Horsepower

Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic    
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
T.E.C.
Regular


Joined: 24 Jun 2012
Posts: 72


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is no such thing as cheap horsepower. If you
buy a 10,000$ tractor on a sale and you get it for
2,500$ there is a good reason the seller let it go
that cheap. New paint and decent tires are a heck of
a good mask. No real reason for posting this, just
thought I would throw my opinion out there due to
all the auction talk lately.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Jiles
Long Time User


Joined: 15 Sep 2008
Posts: 1497
Location: Florence Alabama

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

T.E.C. wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:40:45 01/03/13) There is no such thing as cheap horsepower. If you
buy a 10,000$ tractor on a sale and you get it for
2,500$ there is a good reason the seller let it go
that cheap. New paint and decent tires are a heck of
a good mask. No real reason for posting this, just
thought I would throw my opinion out there due to
all the auction talk lately.

Some years back, I was at an equipment sale. There were two MF135s one with a slick paint job and dyed tires. The other was really weathered. Since I could tell they were owned by the same seller, I asked him which was in better shape. He advised me that the weathered one was, but he didn't have time to paint and clean it up.
I bought the weathered one $1,150.00 cheaper then the other!
Ran that 135 for app. 9 years and sold for more then I paid.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
rrlund
Tractor Guru


Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 22139


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Exceptions to everything I guess. If it's a farm sale and just one tractor is selling cheap,what's the owner gonna do,pizz off the entire crowd by getting all bent out of shape and throwing a hissy fit over one item?

A guy just west of me buys the heck out of Duetz tractors. They're not popular around here,not many folks know much about them,but he farms with them,like I said,buys them for next to nothing and sells on the internet to others who know something about them.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
DeltaRed
Tractor Guru


Joined: 25 Feb 2010
Posts: 9988
Location: Delta,colorado

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Those tractors are there to SELL.not to "test the waters".Most of the time auction tractors are much cheaper than dealer/private sale.So the owner just lets it go and cries.....To not sell a tractor at a 'dispersal'auction(retirement,estate,etc)would be 'sale suicide'.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
dej(Jed)
Tractor Expert


Joined: 20 Aug 2004
Posts: 2757


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

T.E.C. wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:40:45 01/03/13) There is no such thing as cheap horsepower. If you
buy a 10,000$ tractor on a sale and you get it for
2,500$ there is a good reason the seller let it go
that cheap. New paint and decent tires are a heck of
a good mask. No real reason for posting this, just
thought I would throw my opinion out there due to
all the auction talk lately.


You can buy cheap HP tractors. Heck there are 100 HP plus tractors scattered all over the USA. Seems to be a bunch in Tx especially.
A lot of guys can't fix anything, even simple stuff! I have found them
abandoned because the paid hired hand said it blew up and so they replaced it with a newer one that carries a Tax depreciation deduction.
If you are going to buy off of the tractor jockies that constantly advertise here, you will get what you pay for.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
LAA
Tractor Expert


Joined: 05 Mar 2009
Posts: 1815


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Only Case IH and John Deere dealers in our area now days but there used to be Allis Chalmers and White, so now if an Allis or White or MM is in a sale they go cheap unless a Mid-West volume buyer happens to be there and then it has to be an 8 series Allis or a later model White for him to be interested, if they have cabs. The sugarcane stripper combines and new John Deere cotton picker that round bales the cotton have put a lot of tractors on the market that people kept just to pull carts and run module builders.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
BANDITFARMER
Tractor Expert


Joined: 09 Nov 2007
Posts: 1651


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My cousin just bought a White 4-150 for $1800, All it needed was a muffler and 2 hydrolic cables and its good to go. Could use a coat of paint at some point in the future but it has good rubber and glass is there and has 3100 hours. The lights, AC everthing works as it should so not bad at all. More hp than he needs now but in the future who knows. This is a cheep hp tractor! Bandit
 
Back to top
View user's profile
T.E.C.
Regular


Joined: 24 Jun 2012
Posts: 72


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think I was misunderstood. I meant that if you see a 4640 go for 15k less than they are usually going for then there is probably something wrong with it. If you want to buy an off brand and get it bought right then I think that's great. Just do some homework before you commit to that "great deal". This day and age a thousand bucks doesn't go far at the parts counter.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
T.E.C.
Regular


Joined: 24 Jun 2012
Posts: 72


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have some customers that have tractors that they can't get by without. Instead of spending the money to by something decent, they come home from an auction with a Same tractor or a Deutz that you have to drive 2 hours just to get what little parts that are available. If you farm for a living and NEED the machine then it better be a good one. Pay me now or pay me later, either way with the cheap ones, you are gonna pay.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Josh in Pa
Long Time User


Joined: 07 Sep 2007
Posts: 550


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Around here the term cheap horsepower is usually used to describe an Allis 70x0, Case 1x70, some older whites. Tractors that may be pretty good, but can be bought cheaper than more popular tractors. I agree with you on cheap equipment. The cheapest for me has always been to go out and buy the best taken care of one that I can find. I am still a sucker for a fixer upper though, even though I never come out ahead.
Josh
 
Back to top
View user's profile
dboll
Guest






Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I bought my 1570 Case several years ago for $2200 with a spun rod brg. I did the work myself and ended up with a good running 200hp tractor for around $4500. Bought a 2590 Case last fall with a C-3 clutch problem in the power shift for $3500. If there are not any other problems in the ps $2500 will go along way. So if I can get it going for a total investment of $6000 that would make both of them cheap power.
 
Back to top
rrlund
Tractor Guru


Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 22139


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

And if you only need a tractor that big to run,say,a chopper and a chisel plow,but it's too big for the planter,grain drill,sprayer,haybine,round baler,grinder mixer and manure spreader,what's the point praying at the alter of the Deere and spending $30,000 for the same power to do a few jobs? Once the silo is filled and the tractor is just sitting in the shed the rest of the year,as long as the cattle are eating,it doesn't matter what put the feed there.

And as far as the whole "I can get parts for Deere",well good for anybody who says so. Mother Deere left some huge holes in her new improved dealer network though and I'm dead center in the middle of one. If you want to be broke down for a week to ten days,break something green and yellow around here.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
T.E.C.
Regular


Joined: 24 Jun 2012
Posts: 72


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

More time in the field and less in the shop means better profit=being able to afford tractors that don't need a half day's work before they can work.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
dej(Jed)
Tractor Expert


Joined: 20 Aug 2004
Posts: 2757


Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

T.E.C. wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:40:45 01/03/13) There is no such thing as cheap horsepower. If you
buy a 10,000$ tractor on a sale and you get it for
2,500$ there is a good reason the seller let it go
that cheap. New paint and decent tires are a heck of
a good mask. No real reason for posting this, just
thought I would throw my opinion out there due to
all the auction talk lately.


West Texas - needed 2 batteries and filters. Runs great.
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Robert Major
Long Time User


Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 1004
Location: Manitoba , Canada

Report to Moderator

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: No Cheap Horsepower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi
It don"t matter if it"s Deere or Agco equipment round us the parts system is messed up right from the Manufacturers. we have plenty of independant not all one group dealers for both, and still a pain in the A#$ to get some stuff.
Regards Robert
 
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    Yesterday's Tractors Forum Index -> Tractor Talk All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
TRACTOR   PARTS TRACTOR   MANUALS
Same-Day Shipping! Most of our stocked parts ship the same day you order (M-F).  Expedited shipping available, just call!  Most prices for parts and manuals are below our competitors.  Compare our super low shipping rates!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor.  We are a Company you can trust and have generous return policies!   Shop Online Today or call our friendly sales staff toll free (800) 853-2651.

YT Home  |  Forums Home

Copyright © 1997-2014 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters