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RTR Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:34 am Post subject: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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I'm gonna get some new 2 GA Battery Cables for my 1975 Farmall 140 since the ones on it could stand to be a bit bigger. A new battery ground strap too, just to make things "right". I've looked in the CASE/IH parts site, but it doesn't list the particular lengths of the cables..... only the original part numbers. I'd like to get them the exact lengths per IH Specs so they don't hang out in the way and look bad. This is a "Key Start" tractor.
I'll need the Battery Ground Strap, and (2) battery cables. One from the battery to the magnetic switch (solenoid), and one from the solenoid to the starter.
THANKS FOR THE HELP Y'ALL |
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DeltaRed Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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If the tractor is close,the easiest/best way is to
simply measure it. |
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rustred Tractor Expert
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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ya, for sure easiest. even if you take an old cable or small nylon rope and just lay it out where you want it and then get your measurement. |
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RTR Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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120 miles away and I'd like to get parts ordered by this evening. lol |
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DeltaRed Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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That would complicate things a little...But unless
you get 'face to face',the odds of getting the wrong
cables are pretty strong.Good luck!! |
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rustred Tractor Expert
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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well thats not a laughing matter lol.
maybe just buy some welding cable and make them when you get there??? |
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El Toro Tractor Guru
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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If you can find used welding cables you can make your own battery cables. That way you can make
them no longer than necessary. You can buy the soldered type lugs at most auto parts stores along with some flux. Take along a propane torch and a few tools. Hal |
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RTR Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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Actually got a pile of those things in the shop but never have used them. Always use the clamp on type if I needed to replace an end.....even though I hate those things. How do you attach the solder type lugs? What type of solder would I use to affix them.? I think all I have is the small electrical solder. We might have a roll of the larger solder (about size of 10 ga wire). What is used for those lugs? |
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MisterT Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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| RTR wrote: | (quoted from post at 17:53:34 01/04/13)
Actually got a pile of those things in the shop but never have used them. Always use the clamp on type if I needed to replace an end.....even though I hate those things. How do you attach the solder type lugs? What type of solder would I use to affix them.? I think all I have is the small electrical solder. We might have a roll of the larger solder (about size of 10 ga wire). What is used for those lugs? |
The solder type of lugs have the solder already in them. Just slip it onto the cable and then heat it.
Welding cable will work, but it is not the same stuff as battery cable is made of. |
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RTR Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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| MisterT wrote: | (quoted from post at 21:58:29 01/04/13) | RTR wrote: | (quoted from post at 17:53:34 01/04/13)
Actually got a pile of those things in the shop but never have used them. Always use the clamp on type if I needed to replace an end.....even though I hate those things. How do you attach the solder type lugs? What type of solder would I use to affix them.? I think all I have is the small electrical solder. We might have a roll of the larger solder (about size of 10 ga wire). What is used for those lugs? |
The solder type of lugs have the solder already in them. Just slip it onto the cable and then heat it.
Welding cable will work, but it is not the same stuff as battery cable is made of. |
WOW, well I wish I knew that! That is even easier than the clamp type and so much more durable and reliable!! Thanks for the tip. I have the flux and propane torch handy to do that too. How would you use flux with them since it has solder built in? Just spread some around inside the lug?? |
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MisterT Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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| RTR wrote: | (quoted from post at 22:04:15 01/04/13) | MisterT wrote: | (quoted from post at 21:58:29 01/04/13) | RTR wrote: | (quoted from post at 17:53:34 01/04/13)
Actually got a pile of those things in the shop but never have used them. Always use the clamp on type if I needed to replace an end.....even though I hate those things. How do you attach the solder type lugs? What type of solder would I use to affix them.? I think all I have is the small electrical solder. We might have a roll of the larger solder (about size of 10 ga wire). What is used for those lugs? |
The solder type of lugs have the solder already in them. Just slip it onto the cable and then heat it.
Welding cable will work, but it is not the same stuff as battery cable is made of. |
WOW, well I wish I knew that! That is even easier than the clamp type and so much more durable and reliable!! Thanks for the tip. I have the flux and propane torch handy to do that too. How would you use flux with them since it has solder built in? Just spread some around inside the lug?? |
Crimping is even better than soldering, but you need some special tools to do the crimping. The best battery cable ends and lugs are made of heavy, cast copper, and are crimped on. |
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RTR Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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| RTR wrote: | | WOW, well I wish I knew that! That is even easier than the clamp type and so much more durable and reliable!! Thanks for the tip. I have the flux and propane torch handy to do that too. How would you use flux with them since it has solder built in? Just spread some around inside the lug?? |
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rustred Tractor Expert
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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i buy my cable at the case ih dealer in about 8ft pieces at a time. i get them to crip a pos. and neg. terminal on each end. then when i need a cable i just cut it to length the + or - end and just have to solder an eye on the other end. that way your ahead of the game... till you use both ends. |
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RTR Long Time User
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Need Battery Cable Lengths for Key Start Farmall 140 |
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| rustred wrote: | | (quoted from post at 03:58:54 01/05/13) i buy my cable at the case ih dealer in about 8ft pieces at a time. i get them to crip a pos. and neg. terminal on each end. then when i need a cable i just cut it to length the + or - end and just have to solder an eye on the other end. that way your ahead of the game... till you use both ends. |
What do they charge for an 8 ft. peice? |
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