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Permtran III vs Travelers Brand

 
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Christos
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have to flush and refill my MF 135's
hydraulic fluid. Permtran will cost me
$145ish for 8gal and TSC wants 70ish dor
their oil that meets the m-1129A
specification. Of course there is Amsoil at
around 200 and up.

My dealer told me TSC wouldn't hurt
anything when I went in for a price
quote. But the old Massey dealer I had
spoken with said to use nothing but.
Which is the better oil and are ”are all
things equal?” I want to do this once with
no.hassles.

Christos
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Let me repeat my prior post on hydraulic oil. There is no industry standard.
If you believe everything on that label, something is wrong.
I would bet it says it meets the specs for HyTran and also Ford/New Holland 134a. These two oils are different weights, like 10w30 to 20wt.
The premium oils have different additives that are not in the low cost oils.
Use what you want, its a 50+ year old tractor. It probably has leaks already, so keep pouring in the cheap stuff.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:58 am    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The Perma-tran works better in my 135 than the generic stuff and the simple answer is yes, it's a better oil for your MF.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No, it's not leaking, but I won't do the job twice. I'll just get the Permtran
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did they make permtram 50 years ago if not then it won't make any difference.
Everyone wants to sell the more expensive oil because they make twice as much on it.
Walt
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Permatran is a waste of good money if you can buy the same spec oil at a much better price. Massey dealers will tell you what they have is the ONLY thing you can use. BA-LONY! I've used Pennzoil Hytran in my MF150 for more than 40 years with NO issues. Anyone who thinks you have to use MF branded oil......I have some beach front property in Kentucky I'd like to make you a deal on.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I run an 1135, 1105, a couple 180's and a 65 MF. We have used Traveller oil in all of them for 10 years and never had a problem. Make sure to use the Traveller universal transmission oil and not 303.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:56 am    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've never used the TSC stuff but if it's like most others I doubt it's going to hurt your tractor. Most of these suppliers like TSC have now gotten cute about not putting specs on the pail to see what it actually meets or doesn't meet...
The thing is... the requirements for your 135 are so basic that just about anything wet and slippery will do. Now if it has multi power... mabey you better stick with the PermaTran... but if there's no multi-power... and those tractors have drum brakes... get whatever works for you. The big concern is with wet brakes and wet clutches. They require a fairly specific additive package to perform correctly.

Rod
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Permtran III vs Travelers Brand Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Colekicker is right, and I would add that if it comes in a yellow bucket it is good for nothing with the exception of John Deere company oil
 
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