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burnsg2003 Regular
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:35 pm Post subject: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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I have an IH 37 baler which unlike some seems to knot pretty decently since I replaced some worn bearings on the main drive shaft. My question is has anybody tried using the poly twine on this baler and will it work.thanks in advance for your comments. |
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chris 8n New User
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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I have not tried poly in my 37 baler. I use the best quality 9000 sisal. Keep the twine knives sharp and adjusted and keep the knotter are clean.It is my inderstanding that to use poly you might need to play with the knotter adjustments |
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Bret4207 Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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I can't speak to the IH specifically, but I switched to plastic on my NH 68 and didn't have to change a thing. That switch made it into a new baler, no more missed or broken bales. For the cost of a bundle of plastic twine it's worth a try. The plastic is sooooo much more uniform than sisal these days and I think it makes all the difference. |
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Fritz Maurer Long Time User
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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It's possible the twine could pull out of cord holder while packing a heavy bale, because it is more slippery. This can be remedied by removing shims from behind the twine disc to reduce the clearance, thus gripping the twine tighter. Some knotters had twine discs with large notches in them. These notches weaken the disc, and after a number of years begin to cup, or concave, increasing the clearance and lessening the grip on the twine. If new ones are still available, I would prefer the full-circle version, which are much stronger. However, the notched discs can be laid on a flat surface and pounded flat and reused. |
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55deere70 Regular
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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We switched to poly and never looked back. It has been much more reliable and trouble free than the sisal. Went from missing one in ten to one in a hundred on our old 14T. Same with the NH S66 we were using, although I went to 7200 on that one and it would tie all day and only miss one or two. The others use 9000. |
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DeltaRed Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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It will,or it wont.The best way to find out is to buy a box of plastic and TRY IT. |
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RayP(MI) Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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I can't speak to your particular baler, but many of the older ones were designed for sisal, and don't play well with plastic. We avoid plastic around here to keep it out of the other machinery - plays hob with bearings. Doesn't disintegrate for years. Gets into animal feed, real problems if ingested. We raise sheep, and if it gets into the fleece, it is nasty to try to get out. Then there's the problem of animals getting entangled in plastic. Can cause serious injury. |
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Scott(MO) Regular
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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I have a IH37 but I never tried poly twine because I had always heard others say they had problems and so I always run sisal with no problem. However, I have an old Succesful farming magazine from early 70"s (I think 73) that has an advertisement in it for I believe the IH 430 (400 series baler) and it says something to the effect of IH"s new baler that can tie either twine or plastic. I don"t have it front of me to quote it, but it looks like they were only running Sisal in the old 46,27,37 and 47 and not plastic. Just my $.020.
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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ours tied plastic but didn't tie either kind of twine overly dependably |
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showcrop Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:32 am Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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The first time that I bought plastic it said on the box that it works well in all properly adjusted balers. I have gone back and forth with no problems. |
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Bret4207 Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:59 am Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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| RayP(MI) wrote: | | (quoted from post at 19:52:04 01/06/13) I can't speak to your particular baler, but many of the older ones were designed for sisal, and don't play well with plastic. We avoid plastic around here to keep it out of the other machinery - plays hob with bearings. Doesn't disintegrate for years. Gets into animal feed, real problems if ingested. We raise sheep, and if it gets into the fleece, it is nasty to try to get out. Then there's the problem of animals getting entangled in plastic. Can cause serious injury. |
This gets us back into the issue of why people are leaving twine of any kind out in the field. Makes little sense to me. |
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1946 m Regular
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:28 am Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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I have a 47 ih baler and use poly twine it works good in my baler. Makes a good tight bale. Keep twine knifes sharp. |
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JayinNY Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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Yes, I had a ih37 baler with the #10 thrower and I ran plastic twine in it, biggest problem I had with that baler is It wouldn't make a tight bale. |
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RayP(MI) Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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Bret, had a renter years ago who wrapped poly on his round bales. Lost a bunch of it in the fields. Took me years to pick it all up. Note the neighbor has a bunch of it scattered in his feed lot, and bunches wrapped around the beater of his spreader.
We work awfully hard to keep the sisal out of the enviornment here, but some may escape in the feeding operation. Some may sneak in on rebaled broken bales in the fields. Constant vigalence. Don't need any tragedies around here. Don't need it wrapped in bearings on machinery or lawn mowers. Fortunately, sisal does biodegrade - when you least want it to! |
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Bret4207 Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:27 am Post subject: Re: IH 37 baler and poly twine |
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I've seen people that simply leave twine of all kind scattered all over the farm. IME it doesn't matter if it's sisal or poly or wire, it all ends up where it shouldn't. I try to keep it all picked up. No matter what some get's by me every winter, so I make it a habit to pick up all I can find. I have a lot more trouble with wire than poly. |
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