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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

steer onthe other side of fence of my cow pens died.. vet said acidosis. both the owner and i were curious about the COD as we both have more cows. any ideas what might have caused acidosis?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 14:55:39 01/15/13) steer onthe other side of fence of my cow pens died.. vet said acidosis. both the owner and i were curious about the COD as we both have more cows. any ideas what might have caused acidosis?
too much grain feed, grazing/eating johnson grass at wrong stage are a couple of many possibilities.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

he's got a couple high schoolers that come feed his cows, morning and night.

i reckon they overfed or fed too close together then...

not much grass to speak of here now.. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

B U R P P p p p ..........(sorry, couldn't resist) Need to put out more SALT blocks. (with pepto-bismol? giggle) .........Dell
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

salt.. hmm.. does it play a role in this?

I have brown salt blocks out for my cattle right now. occasionally when they are out I use the yellow sulfur salt. but have brown out now.

i don't see any salt in the neighbors pasture.

I use cargil / neutrina feeds mostly. he's using a local feed.. seminole.. but it's marked cattle.. not sure if it has trace minerals or not. never seen a bag tag.. etc.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Are they getting any hay, or just grain? I've heard of it as a problem with grain feeding cattle to "finish" them for market.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Never heard of acidosis, if your neighbor has his cows where alfalfa is growing and can freeze this will cause them to bloat. When i raised cows did loose a few that way
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Acidosis? Just remember... paying 100 bucks an hour for an opinion doesn't always mean it's right.
I'm no expert on the subject either... but I'd always understood acidosis to be a more long term condition caused by continious overfeeding of grain. I can't say I've even seen something so acute that it kills them unless they really got into a pile of grain and bloated? Just keep in mind that some vets are like some MD's... even if they don't know what the hell is wrong they've got to have some fancy sounding answer. Was this a vet that deals primarly with cattle or something else?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

hay available sometimes but not where they can always get it..and yes.. I'd say he was finishing that one.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

way too hot and dry to grow alfalfa here n fl Smile
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i'm not familiar with the vet.. he's not one of the 3 most of use on our equines.

i have heard the same about acidosis. usualy not an acute issue.. and I know I have broke bags inthe pasture and had a cow or steer hop on then and probably eath 10# of grain at one pop with no issues.

I know horses can founder fast on that type of thing.. but then.. wasn't a horse.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Any symptoms observed?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


We had a high school kid feeding the sheep for us once when we were on vacation. On the first day he saw how aggressive they were to get at the grain so he decided that he ought to double the amount that we told him to feed.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: acidosis in a steer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

primary symptom observed.. Smile dead steer.

I didn't see it die.

ate 'breakfast' was fine at dinner.. ate dinner, next morning was dead when breakfast was served. hay was still in it's hay crib.
 
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