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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just got in a 5000 for salvage. Hood is missing but these are the numbers stamped in by the starter.
5C09E
B803440C235
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My book shows all 5000's start with C not B. Also this is a utility tractor with the shorter spindles, but it has 38" rear tires and flat top fenders. Did some of these come this way or did somebody change the rear wheels? Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The flat tops are likely a replacement for the 'elephant ears' they came with, which often rust out at the bottom... 38" tires were available on both utility and row crop versions.
The B prefix on the serial number simply means it was assembled at Ford's Basildon plant. A codes were assembled at Antwerp and C codes were assemebed in the U.S.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry read first number wrong. Should be 5C09B
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

dzus wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:53:33 01/16/13) Just got in a 5000 for salvage. Hood is missing but these are the numbers stamped in by the starter.
5C09E
B803440C235
.
My book shows all 5000's start with C not B. Also this is a utility tractor with the shorter spindles, but it has 38" rear tires and flat top fenders. Did some of these come this way or did somebody change the rear wheels? Thanks


Serial numbers of all 2000/3000/4000 Ford tractors made from 1965-1975 could start with an "A", a "B" or a "C", depending on which factory it was assembled at. A serial number that starts with an "A" means that it was assembled at the plant in Antwerp, Belgium. A serial number that starts with a "B" means that it was assembled at the plant in Basildon England (UK). A serial number that starts with a "C" means that it was assembled at the plant in Michigan in the USA.

The Europeans had the flat top fenders.

5C09E doesn't look like a valid model number or a valid production code.

B803440 does look to be a valid format for a Basildon England serial number, but it's a pretty high number, probably not a 1965-1975 5000 serial number.

C235 looks ot be a European date code, as they used a different order than here in the US. It looks liek March 23rd of some year that ends in a 5,but since we don't have a valid model number and that serial numebr looks so high, I wouldn't even want to venture a decade.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

5C09E is the date code... I think. But date codes end with an A, B or C. 5C09B would be either 1965 or 1975, March 9th, day shift. Hood, grill, and block are all different on '65 vs. '75 models... but your hood is missing, and the block and/or grill could have been replaced.
Your serial number seems high (and too long), but I've heard that British Fords are stamped differently than U.S. Fords. Maybe check the opposite side for more numbers.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some pictures of the tractor would probably help. Also, if it is a 5000, the casting numbers on the engine should help identify as an earlier or later 5000, as the earlier ones had the 233 ci engine and the later ones had the 256 ci, and the casting numbers would be different.

I'm still not sure that it's a 5000 though. Could that serial number be BB03440 instead of B803440? If so, then it would more likely be be a 5610 from around 1987 or 1988. None of those numbers make sense for a 5610 model number either though.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

First # is probably 5C09B which would date it to the ninth of march 1975 on the afternoon shift. The serial number is a later Basildon number that would suggest 1975...

Unless it's got a flat deck platform it's considered a utility chassis regardless of what wheels it has. Mine is very much a utility and has 13.6-38 stamped wheels. It was an option.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The flat top fenders were standard in europe after 1970 ish. We had them on our 2000,4000,
5600 when i grew up in holland.
Last year I saw a 8340 2wd no cab in Ohio who still had the same fenders.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The guys in England must have thought Michigan was in Canada, thus the "C".
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 identity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

cdmn wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:32:56 01/17/13) The guys in England must have thought Michigan was in Canada, thus the "C".


That's funny, but doesn't make sense when you think about it. It was the guys in Michigan that put the "C" stamps on the serial number, not the guys in England.
 
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