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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:06 am    Post subject: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I know during the war there were 2ns sold with steel wheels and a magneto...since the tires tend to have been swapped out for rubber by now - how can I tell the 2n from the 9n? I know I could eyeball the Serial number(in theory), but I'm talking from 10 feet away.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Most of the 2N have the tube type radius rods where the 9N had the I-beam type. Yes some of the early 2Ns had the I-beam type also but out of the whole thing not a real large number of them. Of course then you have the mutts and those you know are a mix and match up tractor built form more then one
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

nondem.......does it really matter??? Only sphincterly challenged originality inspectors care. Because steel wheels and lugged wheels are "rare", they are worth more to the "collector" today. Front axle support beams are "I-beams" for 9N's and "tube-beams" for 2N's. Both engines are 4-nipple front mounts ........notta'thority Dell
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

nondem wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:06:32 01/22/13) I know during the war there were 2ns sold with steel wheels and a magneto...since the tires tend to have been swapped out for rubber by now - how can I tell the 2n from the 9n? I know I could eyeball the Serial number(in theory), but I'm talking from 10 feet away.



About the only part I can think of is the 2N tool box will not mount to the 9N battery box and vice versa .

Basically the "2N" was just a name change to avoid the war time price freeze on "existing" models .

There are lots of small changes from the 39 and early 40's to the late 40's and 41's .
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

John Smith has a nice description of the changes thruogh the years but as stated many are mutts and can be a combination af 9N-2N-8N making it a 928N:-)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm aware of Smiths site....Since the I-Beams could be found on some 2Ns that rules them out. If the tool box doesn't interchange it might be the only sure way.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The I-beam was only used in from what I have read here the first year of production of the 2N as in till they ran out of them and that is common with most any thing built that gets an up grade so the chances of a 2N that you see with the I-beam type will be slim
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Look at the back axle. Solid where the fender bolts
are on the 9N. Open on the 2N. Not sure at what
serial number this occurred. Tool box is different.
If original there will be a small 2N on the badge.
(Can't see that from 10 ft though).
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a 9N tool box on my 47 2N until I traded it with my brother to put on his 39 so I know they can be interchanged. It can be pretty difficult to tell what is original and what isn't without knowing the complete history of the tractor.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i thought tubes were a 44ish thing?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

nondem wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:28:05 01/22/13) I'm aware of Smiths site....Since the I-Beams could be found on some 2Ns that rules them out. If the tool box doesn't interchange it might be the only sure way.


The front axle support/doglegs are very good clues. Early 2N's used the 9N cast support but had a different radiator support with a cutout and a tapped hole on the front for retaining the 8N teardrop flanged style axle pin. That support also had brackets for through bolts that held the doglegs on from the outside and those bolts should be clearly visible from well beyond 10 feet Wink Later 2N's used the 8N two piece stamped steel support and the same bolt on style doglegs as Ford ramped up for 8N production.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Seems I have seen it said more then one way here so not 100% sure and of course you know how parts seem to never stay with the correct machine.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ain't that the truth....
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think the change from the cast dashboard to a sheetmetal one occured real close to the change from 9N to 2N
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: How to tell a 9n from a 2n Reply to specific post Reply with quote

But hey if it has the tube type radius rods and a 3 speed if still as it should be you know it is a 2N
 
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