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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have commented before on GB in MT and his laying out of his work before assy. and admire his approach to this. Here is an engine lay out just to check and measure parts before the work begins as to boring cylinders, lapping case races, valve guides and seats and the rest of the engine assy. It's just another day for me and another in this case twin cam HD engine.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="01BIRDDOG"](quoted from post at 14:13:14 01/24/13) I have commented before on GB in MT and his laying out of his work before assy. and admire his approach to this. Here is an engine lay out just to check and measure parts before the work begins as to boring cylinders, lapping case races, valve guides and seats and the rest of the engine assy. It's just another day for me and another in this case twin cam HD engine. /quote]

What you got tucked against the back wall - doesn't look like a Bridgeport - Wells or perhaps Gorton?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

01BIRDDOG wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:13:14 01/24/13) I have commented before on GB in MT and his laying out of his work before assy. and admire his approach to this. Here is an engine lay out just to check and measure parts before the work begins as to boring cylinders, lapping case races, valve guides and seats and the rest of the engine assy. It's just another day for me and another in this case twin cam HD engine.



Wow!!! very well organized and extremely clean and tidy! wish my workshop was like that.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Back when I was shop foreman and mechanic at the local IH dealership I hired a guy who told me he could do anything mechanical.

I gave him a Super A engine job to do. When he finally got through with about 10 working days later it was perfect. I fired him! We were paying him more than the labor for the job.

Get her done!!!

Zane
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks 'just right. ' to me. Forty years ago I ran a Porsche/V.W. shop. The guy that owned the joint was an ex-Porsche mechanic (he came around every couple of days to check the 'till'). The standard procedure was to do as you have shown in your picture. Thanks for the memory !
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:32 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I don't think your prospects of it coming out right are very good. You won't be able to get any close work done properly with all the bright light reflecting back at you from all those polished parts, LOL.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bob Harvey wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:52:10 01/24/13) Looks 'just right. ' to me. Forty years ago I ran a Porsche/V.W. shop. The guy that owned the joint was an ex-Porsche mechanic (he came around every couple of days to check the 'till'). The standard procedure was to do as you have shown in your picture. Thanks for the memory !
Oh yes i remember the days of the 4 cam, 356's and the wonderful mechanical fuel injection on the early 911 "S". The pump was driven by a belt and remember you had to use a mirror to set the pump timing when the engine was in the car.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

01BIRDDOG wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:05:28 01/25/13)
Bob Harvey wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:52:10 01/24/13) Looks 'just right. ' to me. Forty years ago I ran a Porsche/V.W. shop. The guy that owned the joint was an ex-Porsche mechanic (he came around every couple of days to check the 'till'). The standard procedure was to do as you have shown in your picture. Thanks for the memory !
Oh yes i remember the days of the 4 cam, 356's and the wonderful mechanical fuel injection on the early 911 "S". The pump was driven by a belt and remember you had to use a mirror to set the pump timing when the engine was in the car.


B...Dog;
I'm impressed, with yer 'lay-out'!!!! If I was in the market for a bike engine rebuild, I wouldn't care how long it took ya to do it. Just from lookin' at the pic., I can tell that you, put 'That extra mile', in what you do.

'SLAM...BANG'....'GETTER DUN',....don't get it to MY way of thinking!!!!! Evil or Very Mad

Where were you, when I was putting my 'VW TRIKE' together?????? Laughing Laughing
That was a LOT of yrs. ago!!!!! Shocked

Gary Wink

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

GB in MT. wrote:
(quoted from post at 23:53:57 01/25/13)
01BIRDDOG wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:05:28 01/25/13)
Bob Harvey wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:52:10 01/24/13) Looks 'just right. ' to me. Forty years ago I ran a Porsche/V.W. shop. The guy that owned the joint was an ex-Porsche mechanic (he came around every couple of days to check the 'till'). The standard procedure was to do as you have shown in your picture. Thanks for the memory !
Oh yes i remember the days of the 4 cam, 356's and the wonderful mechanical fuel injection on the early 911 "S". The pump was driven by a belt and remember you had to use a mirror to set the pump timing when the engine was in the car.


B...Dog;
I'm impressed, with yer 'lay-out'!!!! If I was in the market for a bike engine rebuild, I wouldn't care how long it took ya to do it. Just from lookin' at the pic., I can tell that you, put 'That extra mile', in what you do.

'SLAM...BANG'....'GETTER DUN',....don't get it to MY way of thinking!!!!! Evil or Very Mad

Where were you, when I was putting my 'VW TRIKE' together?????? Laughing Laughing
That was a LOT of yrs. ago!!!!! Shocked

Gary Wink


When I was overhauling jet turbine fuel controls, we found that it really sped up the time required if we had all the parts laid out. A lot less time was spent in looking for the parts. As it was it took about 100 hours per fuel control. I don't remember how many parts there were total but it had about 250 orings of various sizes in them. Don't miss it!!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is a sample of the engines i build. Quite a few "short rod" XR 750 race engines, and the usual Panhead,Knucklehead, WR, KR, and big inch stroker with square bore/stroke.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks like you've got a lot of farm equipment broke down.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote


First HD engine I built a 69 FLH a few weeks later one of the rollers went bad on a lifter,,, the worst part was getting the oil pump keys replaced while the engine was still in the bike....

Second engine a 73 super guide,,, somehow the bolts for the stater came loose and ate it up Crying or Very sad

Down the road I rebuilt one and installed a Andrews A grind cam,,, never could get it to start Andrews had pressed the drive gear on wrong Twisted Evil

On the 69 somewhere in the early 80"s I got hold of a 80" low-rider engine less the cases and swapped the whole lower end , jugs, head and my old FLH cam into the 69 cases...

I sold my HD scooter shop in the mid 80's to a employee no one had any money,,,, Only the local scooter trash rode'em (that includes me),,,, he was as good as it gets working on them.... Never did I think HD's would ever become a fad and folks with money would have to have one...

I went to Bowling Green KY in 1978 for the big boogie,,, It was the first time I saw Ray Price run his Funny Bike thru the quarter and tote the front wheel off the pavement the whole way....
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: OT----ENGINE LAY OUT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hobo,NC wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:25:01 01/26/13)
First HD engine I built a 69 FLH a few weeks later one of the rollers went bad on a lifter,,, the worst part was getting the oil pump keys replaced while the engine was still in the bike....

Second engine a 73 super guide,,, somehow the bolts for the stater came loose and ate it up Crying or Very sad

Down the road I rebuilt one and installed a Andrews A grind cam,,, never could get it to start Andrews had pressed the drive gear on wrong Twisted Evil

On the 69 somewhere in the early 80"s I got hold of a 80" low-rider engine less the cases and swapped the whole lower end , jugs, head and my old FLH cam into the 69 cases...

I sold my HD scooter shop in the mid 80's to a employee no one had any money,,,, Only the local scooter trash rode'em (that includes me),,,, he was as good as it gets working on them.... Never did I think HD's would ever become a fad and folks with money would have to have one...

I went to Bowling Green KY in 1978 for the big boogie,,, It was the first time I saw Ray Price run his Funny Bike thru the quarter and tote the front wheel off the pavement the whole way....
I could give a puke for the new yuppy scum HD trash. Not too common to see stuff screwed up from the mfg. like the drive gear on the Andrews cam but it sure happens. Take this and compare it to the XR four cam set up-----start with four cam lobes,four shafts and four gears. Set up degree wheel along with dial indicator, set opening of each cam lobe one at a time, dissemble entire cam chest ant T.I.G. each lobe to gear and press on shaft. Many,many hours to set up one of these engines. To compare these to the above yuppy engines, well you cant, not even in the same world.
 
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