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Best way to lift MF-S92 header ?????


 
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Ralph Bauer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Plans are to pick up a "mint" MF Super 92 this Saturday. Has 16 ft header with reel (and attached feeder housing). Metal and paint in excellent condition. Has to come off for the transport. Where would be the best places to sling lifting belts or hose covered chains around? Will have winch truck on site. Anything else we need to know or you can think of? Just never had to take off and haul a header (with feeder housing) separately from combine.
Thanks in advance,
Ralph in OK.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some of my Case heads have eye bolts thru the feeder house support irons right where the feeder and grain table meet. Might have to remove reel to get it to lift evenly.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Take a couple of planks, blocks and a spade.

Dig a hole for the trailer tires on one side of the trailer.

Drive the combine up the plank ramps from the side of the trailer and set it right on the trailer.

It may also help to take a pole or something like that to set under the sickle to allow for removel of the head at the correct angle to the combine.

That's if the combine runs.

Gary
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you have a good sized loader, set the heel of the bucket on top of the feeder house just ahead of the feeder drive shaft. Drop a chain down under the feeder house right where the lift cylinders mount and go up over the front of the bucket and fasten to the back of the bucket. Now just pick the header up, level it to where you want it and set it on a flatbed. The old 16 foot headers did not weight nearly as mush as a new 42 foot! Just take it slow and easy and it will work fine. Good Luck!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Two pins at the top of the feeder house about even with the drivers seat. The headers on those had quite a feeder house on them - they are awkward. We always had a devil of a time getting the header back on the 92. Like someone mentioned, we used the front loader with the tractor up against the big tire on that side. If not available try to set the header on the trailer knowing that moving it after it is unhooked is weird because of that feeder house.

I am so jealous. I almost bout one a few months ago.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Forgot to mention that the combine is not currently running; header in the "up" position.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If your trailer is long enough and flat, you could winch the whole machine on backwards, stopping like 10' from where you want the combine to be chained down. Let down the header (on some planks) by opening the hoses. Block the feeder house or hold it up with a loader. Remove feeder house chain. Unhook the feeder house by removing the two pins right in front of the cylinder. Winch the combine on the rest of the way. Set the feeder house down, then lift, and rotate the header sideways.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the great answers so far but our main question is: Where do you put the chains under and/or hook onto the header when lifting, pulling, rotating, etc.? To either side of the feeder housing around the header or....??
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Nice find Ralph...Remember that the header has a helper spring under the combine that has lots of tension on it..If hauling it on a semi or long trailer put the combine on backwards and lower the header,take it loose,pull it forward and then swivel it..
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ralph, maybe four inch wide straps would work somehow. They would spread the pinch load out wider and they might not slip as easy on a sloped surface. A piece of tin would protect the strap if it was going over the cutter bar. I'm guessing the center point of lifting will be somewhere around the front of the top bar across the back of the header. Maybe a couple of straps, or chains wrapped around the header itself front to back, one on each side of the feeder house would do it. Then you could put a chain between them and lift from that chain. You might have to move the lifting chain forward or back to find the sweet spot, and a stout board or something like that across the cutter bar to keep from bending guards or the cutter bar. We used to lift headers that way when we slid them into the back of a straight truck, only the feeder house wasn't on the header. Just an idea. I would LOVE to run down to OK to help you just to re-live old times. Now I'm getting the 'itch.Jim
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ralph, I have seen boys hold those headers up with chains around the header support pipe. You know, the round pipe that angles back at the top rear of the header. I never thought those were strong enough but haven't ever seen wear to suggest they aren't. If it were me I would sling strap around the feeder house at the base and then around the header, lift at that point having someone steady it with ropes tied to the ends. To unhook it I would do it without lifting it as that will jack with the geometry making pulling those pins harder.

If I remember right those pins are about 8 inches long and shaped like an "L". The top of them is not like a pin used for pulling implements. More like something little boys would use to play cowboys and Indians. Sorry, First Nation's People.

While you have that header off check the condition of the sprocket bearing that is right there. That's the one we would have to remove the header to replace. Booger.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Load the combine backwards on the trailer. You will need all that header clearance to get up on the trailer. Remove the header at the very back of the trailer. Remove the lower header pins along with the one cylinder pin with a punch. Leave the punchs in these spots until later. Remove belts on the left hand side and a chain on the right hand side. You have to remove the shoe drive arm. Remember the protective cover is left handed nut so you don't strip it off removing. You will need a small puller to remove the arm. Then slowly loosen the hydraulic hose on the combine side of one lift cylinder. I usually loosen then just get out of the way let it settle nice and slow. There is a support bracket running across the bottom side of the feeder house. Block below this support, place jack and jack just enough to remove the upper feederhouse pins. Then pull all three punches out of the lower portion of the feederhouse and pull combine way from feederhouse. Remember you have not removed the springs on the header assist. So at some point the mechanism will quickly adjust upward but no damage will be done. Remove the wood chain guides place chain clear around the feeder house. That is where you will want your crane truck hooked to the feederhouse. Once that is secured removed jack and block and swing the feeder house side ways. then you will have to move the header and feederhouse to the sickle side of the trailer it will not stick out over the trailer. Then I would just lower the feeder house on the trailer. Secure chain down combine and hit the road. I mean towards my house because one nice machine. I will see if I can find a link of when I hauled home a MH27 last year. The pictures where posted on this site. Make sure to remove the canopy and anything else that might blow off.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Not Running ??? HEcK , You just as welll bring it to my place,,,,, along with what others have said ,,if you arebringing it home dead ,, You REEALY NEEDA HEAVY Boom pole tractor,,use nylon straps at all attach points ,, iwould have at least 10 bales of hay handy to cushion the movement of the head. after loadeed .you can releive the pressure on cyl. by diconnecting hydro lines ,,if you can lift it it would be best to set that on trailer lastinstead of monkeying with it dead on the trailer... IF YOU WANT TO GET THE MOTOR RUNNIN TO MOVE IT ... DONT EVEN MESS WITH THE GAS TANK ,,,fasten a can of gas to gravity feed new hi octane gas to the carb ,, you may need to pull it ,, make sure your clutch is not stuck ,, if it is that has to be disassembled and cleaned and WORKING,,. , OR ALL BETS ARE OFF PULL STARTING . BTW ,, what is the story behind the history of the well kept 92 ?? and most of all... CONGRATULATIONS on the NICE FIND ... but be prepared for some envious ribbin... LOL
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: Best way to lift MF-S92 header ????? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is a nice looking combine; congratulations!

Best of luck getting her home. Travel safely!
 
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