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Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity


 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When did IH put that system on the market and does anyone still have one and what was its official name? Thanks in advance. J.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think you are referring to the Electrall system. Wardner is somewhat of the resident expert on that system, along with many others with experience on the system.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Electrall Was the name. (IIRC) 1954 was the date. The idea had interesting value (especially for generating standby power) there was a baler made with a motor on the top front driving the flywheel. If no one loads a picture I will find one I took at red Power Roundup.
Wardner (a frequent contributor) has a serious interest and knowledge of the system.
Two primary units were made. One on a trailer, and one installed on the tractor's belt pulley drive. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did the generator run whenever the engine was running?or did it stop when the clutch was in?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The trailer type was used on any tractor with a 540 PTO but took quit a bit of HP to run at full capacity. So that depends on the tractor. I don't know if the trans mounted unit had a shifter Jim
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There were at least two brochures printed on the Electrall unit.

The first brochure showed the unit mounted in the tractor, like you describe.

The second brochure showed it with three different mountings. The tractor side mount was one, the trailer mount was the second one, and the unit mounted on a pad that hooked up to the Fast Hich was the third type of mount.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Cool. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jim,
I saw a trailer model sell a couple years ago at a nearby auction. I had no way of knowing if it still worked, but looked to be in good shape and stored inside. To my everlasting regret I passed on it that day. You have any idea of the worth of such a generator?
I remember vividly when that feature was introduced as I saw it mounted on a SMTA in an IH showroom.

That SMTA (with generator) pulling that baler with the top mounted elec motor was terrific at the RPRU in MN a couple years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here's a look at restored side-mount Electrall on a Farmall 400. Also an IHC #56 baler set up for Electrall motor drive:




 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I enjoyed looking at that fine combination at Albert Lea. Most excellent. One question that has not been addressed is whether the Electroll unit is clutched, or "live" or continuously driven with a disconnect? Jim
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Farall and the means to runimplements with electricity Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Janicholson wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:34:47 01/29/13) I enjoyed looking at that fine combination at Albert Lea. Most excellent. One question that has not been addressed is whether the Electroll unit is clutched, or "live" or continuously driven with a disconnect? Jim


The electrall gearbox is driven directly from the IPTO gear, so the electrall generator is turning whenever the engine is turning. There is no way to mechanically disconnect it. Of course generator does not produce electricity until the the switch is turned on, allowing the exciter to operate. Hey, anybody hear from Wardner lately?
 
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