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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:05 am    Post subject: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Lady hits her remote trunk release and a leaking plumbers acetylene tank blow up
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/01/27/car-explosion-rocks-parking-lot-in-stoneham/
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

55deere70 wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:05:48 01/28/13) Lady hits her remote trunk release and a leaking plumbers acetylene tank blow up
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/01/27/car-explosion-rocks-parking-lot-in-stoneham/
That stuff does make a really good boom!!! Twisted Evil
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's why I carry my small bottle in the carrier tucked behind the passenger seat. At least I will smell it if there is a leak. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

jgayman wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:37:58 01/28/13) That's why I carry my small bottle in the carrier tucked behind the passenger seat. At least I will smell it if there is a leak. Smile
I've lost any sense of smell due to sinus surgery, so I have to light a match to check for leaks! Evil or Very Mad
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Acetylene tanks should not be laid down, and
shouldn't be carried in a trunk of a car. Gas
supplier has all the rules and they usually have
news articles with pics of sad tales. Also the tanks
should be SECURED when transporting, and with the
regulators REMOVED.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My computer/connection is too slow to get the link to work!
Carrying gas cans/torch tanks and the like is bad enough in a pickup truck. But it just shouldn't even be contemplated in a trunk.
Went to some seminar years ago, I think it was how DOT, etc. regulations were going to affect farm trucks, or some such. Anyhow- state trooper had pictures he took of a burnt up car. Father had sent daughter to corner station with can for lawnmower gas. She never made it home.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If they have been laid down, they need to sit upright for a time to let the acetone drain from the valve area. The cylinders are filled with an inert filler, soaked in acetone, and the acetylene is dissolved into the acetone.

Don't want any fluid getting into the regulator or there will be problems.

Josh
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hi They where Lucky nobody was killed .
A guy I shared an apartment with while I worked away,had a job working in the oil patch here in Canada. They where building and loading mobile shops in shipping containers.
They put cylinders and tools in the shop, Then had to weld the doors shut for security when they got the container to site, until the job started.
The cylinder for the torch weeped for 2 hours in the front of the container. when they struck the ark on the doors you can guess the rest.
Some of my other friends where working the same yard that day and haven't been the same since this happened.
It was a good few years ago now.
Regards Robert
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've seen people tell me there are laws that say a propane tank or oxy or acetylene tank can't be transported in an enclosed vehicle, has to be upright, has to be strapped in, etc. because it's DOT law. Thing is none of the items mentioned are of enough quantity to even be in the book so the rules don't apply. I've looked and looked and it's just not there. Now, if you want to talk best practices, common sense, etc., fine, that's different. But I don't own a pickup at the moment and I'm out of acetylene and I won't pay $150.00 for the gas supply co to drop one off. So it's going in the Burb, on it's side and I will let it set overnight in an upright position before using it. Same thing for the 100 lbs propane tank I need filled. The poor guy at the hardware gets the hives when I load it, but that's his problem, not mine.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's been my understanding for many, many years that the largest L.P. tank allowed to be carried in an enclosed vehicle is a 20 pounder. and it must be sitting upright.
I've seen guys getting 30 pounders filled and laying them down in the back of their pick up, and the guy doing the filling informing the driver that the tanks must be sitting up.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Allowed... Nobody is out there checking every vehicle to make sure their propane tank is sitting upright and is secured.

It's just common sense, but common sense isn't common, so you make it a law.

People with common sense will secure their propane cylinders so they can't roll around and get damaged. They don't want to lose their expensive propane, and don't want to get blown up.

Clueless, law-abiding citizens will secure their propane cylinders because they think the police are lurking in the bushes watching them. They have no idea that they're carrying something dangerous.

Stupid people will just throw the tank in the trunk and go on their merry way. 99,999 times out of 100,000, they will get home with no problem. They don't know value, the law, safety, or any of it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Gentlemen, if you can find a Federal DOT law stating that the largest propane tank allowed to be carried in an enclosed vehicle is a 20 lbs tank I'd love to see it. If you can find a state law I'd love to see that too. I never meant to imply they should be "rolling around" in the back, but again, if you can show me a Federal or State law that specifically addresses securement propane or other compressed gases in non-placardable quantities I'd love to see it.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The bystanders were lucky that there was not a 50/50
mixture of oxygen in that vehicle. That parking lot
could have looked like Hiroshima. Well not quite,
but a lot worse than a straight acetylene explosion.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bret4207 wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:35:31 01/29/13) Gentlemen, if you can find a Federal DOT law stating that the largest propane tank allowed to be carried in an enclosed vehicle is a 20 lbs tank I'd love to see it. If you can find a state law I'd love to see that too. I never meant to imply they should be "rolling around" in the back, but again, if you can show me a Federal or State law that specifically addresses securement propane or other compressed gases in non-placardable quantities I'd love to see it.
Why upright for propane? Newer tanks have a valve to prevent liquid draw, so in upside down or horizontal, they have what amounts to double valving....almost seems safer. As for acetylene horizontal...not a problem, especially if standing upright for a time period before use. We have used them horizontal for over 50 years (still do) & NEVER expelled acetone. If it is raining & sun is shining, the devil is beating his wife!
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Acetylene tank explodes in car trunk Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bret4207 wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:35:31 01/29/13) Gentlemen, if you can find a Federal DOT law stating that the largest propane tank allowed to be carried in an enclosed vehicle is a 20 lbs tank I'd love to see it. If you can find a state law I'd love to see that too. I never meant to imply they should be "rolling around" in the back, but again, if you can show me a Federal or State law that specifically addresses securement propane or other compressed gases in non-placardable quantities I'd love to see it.


I think the propane tank standards/regulations were in place before DOT.
Here they are from Canada.

http://www.apollopropane.com/pdf/TransportingPropaneCylinders.pdf
 
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