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toymaker 27
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: W4 disolate motor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What was this tupe of fuel? how does it differ from gasoline? there is an earlier post on here about requiring a different manifold or a heat shield if operating on straight gas? any thoughts.

(I ham hoping to plow snow and pull a hay rake with this unit, At its age, like me, it deserves light work)
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: W4 disolate motor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is no supply of distillate now, nor any reason to use it unless for some sort of display. The engine you have was designed to run on gasoline to start and warm up and then be switched over to distillate which was cheaper. Nowadays you can just run it on gasoline with no problems.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: W4 disolate motor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

just operate on gas as all these old tractors have been and no problem. need a hotter manifold for distillate, and if it has one ok with gas. with distillate you need the engine running hot, which you will never encounter by pushing snow. only advantage of distillate was it was cheaper than gas way back then. so for light work gas is the answer.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: W4 disolate motor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Petroleum distillate, also known as tractor fuel in the day.

I think it is similar to naptha, which is used as a paint thinner.

Basically, it was the stuff left over from making gasoline. Refineries didn't know what to do with it at the time, and I think they just threw it away or burned it until someone figured out how to make a tractor run on it.

Nowadays, almost nothing is wasted when crude oil is refined.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: W4 disolate motor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

mkirsch wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:39:33 01/30/13) Petroleum distillate, also known as tractor fuel in the day.

I think it is similar to naptha, which is used as a paint thinner.

Basically, it was the stuff left over from making gasoline. Refineries didn't know what to do with it at the time, and I think they just threw it away or burned it until someone figured out how to make a tractor run on it.

Nowadays, almost nothing is wasted when crude oil is refined.


Only thing I would add is that some of the jet fuels are the closest modern day equivalent. Some guys are getting pumped off jet fuel from the Air Force and burning it. It isn't really worth it unless you have a really cheap source of jet fuel.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Re: W4 disolate motor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Called Power Kerosene in Australia. You can make it by mixing Lighting Kerosene and Mineral Turpentine in equal proportions. I usually run the Farmall M on petrol, but have run the Farmall H for heavy work (ploughing and harrowing) on kero. You do need the correct manifold and the heat shields and radiator shutters working. Farmall tractors here were nearly all setup for kero operation, so most of them have the shutters and heat shields. Finding a good manifold is nearly impossible. I have one for a Farmall M which is being used as a model to make replacements at a local foundry… sadly they know how to charge!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: W4 disolate motor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

SadFarmall wrote:
(quoted from post at 23:46:36 01/31/13) Called Power Kerosene in Australia. You can make it by mixing Lighting Kerosene and Mineral Turpentine in equal proportions. I usually run the Farmall M on petrol, but have run the Farmall H for heavy work (ploughing and harrowing) on kero. You do need the correct manifold and the heat shields and radiator shutters working. Farmall tractors here were nearly all setup for kero operation, so most of them have the shutters and heat shields. Finding a good manifold is nearly impossible. I have one for a Farmall M which is being used as a model to make replacements at a local foundry… sadly they know how to charge!
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Is it any cheaper to run kero? Around here kero is more expensive than diesel which is more expensive than gas. I know others here in the states can get kero for less than diesel. I have heard they burnt more gas when run on kero. Add that to the fact that you have to drain all that oil out because of crankcase dilution. Shocked
 
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