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Fritz Maurer Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: Deutz in a combine? |
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Got a chance at a nice 615 with a blown motor. I have a F5L912 on the floor of my shop, waiting to go in a vehicle. Never heard of a Deutz in a combine, and I have a couple concerns. Since the radiator is no longer required, I can't use the rotary chaff screen to filter the cooling air. What can be put on the air inlet that won't restrict air flow? Second, the cooling air exits the engine across the exhaust manifold. what is the possibility of fire, blowing dusty air here? Thanks, Fritz |
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LonM Regular
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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Gleaner did it for a number of years, the key was to keep them blown off. |
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gbs Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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AC used them in several models of the rotary gleaner combines |
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JD Seller Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:21 am Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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When Deutz bought Allis they put the air cooled motor in some models of the rotary combines. They did not work out so well. They where prone to fires and overheating. The chaff would plug up the cooling fins even with the Factory screening system. They later switched to Cummins motors in them.
I assume you are talking about an IH 615 combine??? IF so I would just go by a complete motor from a salvage yard. By the time you make all the brackets and drives you will not save much using the Deutz motor. |
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Haley Regular
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:00 am Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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Yey Fritz, before you put a lot into a 615 I.H. you may want to check to see if parts are avalible for the combine.I ran one back in the early 90's and some stuff was obsolete then.I have a friend who still runs an 815 and he is ready to trade up because he said most parts are obsolete from CNH.Of course there are junkyards but you may need that "one" part from I.H. that you cant get. |
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Dick2 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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I left Ac before Deutz bought the Ag line, but a custom operator told me that when Deutz put their engine on the combines in the custom fleet, they couldn't haul replacement engines fast enough to replace all the failures.
I've always been skeptical of European equipment as most of it is designed for the temperatures of northern Europe. It just doesn't hold up well in the U.S. where the temps are higher and we work the equipment harder and cover a lot more acres. |
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mudcreek183 Regular
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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Don't know about putting them in a combine but we have Deutz tractors and the engines have held up well in them the key is to keep the cooling fins clean. |
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RGMartin Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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The neighbors have a Small Gleaner Rotary with a Deutz. The engine seems to be one of the stronger points of the machine. They run a bunch of air cooled stuff, so they probably have a good idea what they need.
It has a very distinct sound to it... No question as to whose combine is running. |
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JD Seller Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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I sure am not bad mouthing Deutz tractor engines. I have boughten three new tractors in my life and two of them where Deutz. One was a 3.5 and the other was a 6275. I sure wish I still had the 6275. I used it for two years and sold it for more than I gave for it. The replacement was ordered when Agco took over and canceled all the sold orders. The replacement was a Italian built tractor that I did not want. |
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fixerupper Tractor Guru
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 6882 Location: Albert City Iowa
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Deutz in a combine? |
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The Deutz's in the Gleaners just couldn't keep cool in the 100+degree temps of the western plains wheat harvest. Here in Iowa I don't think they had heating problems as long as they were kept clean. A close neighbor had a R50 with a Deutz and he kept blowing the fire rings between the head and block but I don't know if it was because it was in a combine or if something else was going on. It was real easy on fuel. Jim |
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