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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:01 pm    Post subject: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am needing to buy a dust collecting system for a woodshop. I will hook it to the usual things, table saw, miter saw, band saw, planer etc, thinking about 5hp single phase. I have never been around 1. Can anyone give me any advice? Many thanks guys. I am also going to replace my old Sears table saw. Can anyone give me any advice on a saw, thinking about a "bessemier" fence system.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a Delta system and I like it. Grizzly tools makes several models that look pretty good.
you can use or make your system out of pvc pipe. Then buy your gates and flexible hose.
Run a ground wire through it for static shock.
There are alot of good table saws on the market.
how much do you want to spend?
Brian
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Powermatic table saw--a big heavy well built saw- great t style fence- screw drive adjustment on angle and blade depth with dependable locks. I have not priced one in a long time. Expensive jmho gobble
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

About 10 years ago I bought a Grizzly 1023 3hp table saw.It has a shop fox fence wich is a copy of a bessmier.Very accurate and I am well pleased with it. Later I also bought a Grizzly 14" band saw. The only problem I have had was the starting capacitor failed on the band saw motor after about five years of use.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If i were in the market for a new saw i would look at a Saw Stop. If you touch the spining blade, it stops and drops in a instant. But any of the name brands are fine. Jet, Powermatic, Delta, General, ect. With dust collectors look at what micron of dust it removes.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We bought a powermatic. Pricey but a good piece of equipment.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

for a table saw get a Saw Stop cheaper than going to the emergency room

on the dust collector bigger the better, if you use plastic pipe then run a bare ground wire inside it

I have my dust collector set to start when ever I start a piece of equipment up. Install shutoff slides to direct the airflow as needed

good luck
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My little 2hp singl stage collector isn't doing the job in my shop anymore. I was going to get a single stage collector of about 4-5 hp, but after a bit of investigation, I think I'm going to go with a slightly smaller cyclone collector. Likely from Grizzly. I think it will be a better fit...
I have several pieces of Grizzly equipment and am pleased with it.
I have a Biessemier fence on my old 3hp Grizzly saw and sure like it. When I upgrade my saw I'm going to go with a Sawstop. Like the other's have said, its a whole lot cheaper than a trip to the hospital! Have heard they are a very good quality saw to boot!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Do not purchase a new saw until you've checked out the SawStop. You can see a convincing demonstration in the video below. The story is that the inventor tried to market his design to all the major saw manufacturers, and none were interested. So he started his own company, which has been pretty successful.

I breathed new life into my Craftsman saw by replacing the fence. I used a Delta fence sold at the time by Lowe's for about 200 bucks. This extended the rip width from 24 to 30 inches, making a huge difference in the utility of the saw. It's not a simple project to do the retrofit, but you can find instructions on-line from others who have done this conversion.

My Craftsman saw had a fairly decent fence, which I gave to a friend with an older saw. He was grateful enough to give me his old Craftsman dust collector. It's a big improvement over nothing, but if I were buying a new system I'd certainly go big.
SawStop demonstration

 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Never had one so I wouldn't know. I catch most of the floating dust in the air from my saws and sanders in my mustache and nose hair. A large percentage in on my glasses, hat and shoulders.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Guys Thanks for the replies, as for the ground wire does it just lay in the pipe, fastened on the collector end, or does it need to come in contact with both machines when they are running. As for cost of the equiptment I want it to last the rest of my life. I am not too concerned with the cost up to $4000.00 on the saw. Is the Saw Stop machine accurate, that is my main concern, I have not seen 1, but I have seen all the rest mentioned.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I guess it depends on how much you want to spend. the sawstop is great, but it is pricey. I believe the cheapest is around $2000.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: dust extractor Reply to specific post Reply with quote

" as for the ground wire does it just lay in the pipe, fastened on the collector end, or does it need to come in contact with both machines when they are running"

use a bare copper wire inside of all plastic pipe
solder all joints
have the wire(s) exit a hole in the side of the pipe and go to a ground rod(s) driven 6+ feet in the ground
does not need to connect to the machines as all the machines should be grounded properly thru the equipment grounding conductor back to the main panel

GOOD LUCK
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