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Detmurds
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 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:18 pm Post subject: BUST'N NUTS! |
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On my left rear wheel of my 1959 Workmaster,..I have only three lug nuts left of the six. The nuts are busted off from the outside of the wheel, and still in the inner part of it. How should I go about removing the bolts/threads/nuts? And who makes the replacement parts? Any help is appreciated!
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shaun wallace
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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There is a plug in backplate that will let the new bolts be installed and I think they are avaible from this site
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RodinNS
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:59 am Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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AS stated... find the plug towards the bottom of the axle housing. You should be able to drive them out with a drift punch, then install new ones in the same manner with a heavy hammer and drift. Probably available here, CNH, NAPA, etc. Not hard to find.
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Detmurds
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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Thanks for the reply,..but it is another lug nut, not a plug. I will go out there and see if punching it out will work or not.
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Royse
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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3 of 6? Are you talking about the bolts that hold the outer rim to the center disk?
There should be eight holding the center disk to the axle/hub. No?
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Detmurds
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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| Royse wrote: | (quoted from post at 15:03:24 02/07/13) 3 of 6? Are you talking about the bolts that hold the outer rim to the center disk?
There should be eight holding the center disk to the axle/hub. No? |
You are correct,..there are 8 of them.
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Detmurds
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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So hey,..those lug nuts on the inside of the wheel are independent from those on the outside? Is that what I am being told here?
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Sean in PA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:58 am Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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| Detmurds wrote: | | (quoted from post at 00:51:39 02/11/13) So hey,..those lug nuts on the inside of the wheel are independent from those on the outside? Is that what I am being told here? |
That depends on what you're calling the "inside" and the "outside".
The nuts closer to the center of the wheel and axle hold the center of the wheel to the axle. The nuts out near the rim of the wheel, where the center of the wheel meets the rim of the wheel, hold the center to the rim, and yes, the 2 are independent of each other, but you need all of them to hold the tractor up.
If you're calling the "inside" where the studs come out through the hole on the inboard side of the brake backer plate, and the "outside" where the studs stick out where the lug nuts hold the center of the wheel to the studs, then the "inside" and the "outside" are just opposite ends of the same studs.
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Detmurds
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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Thanks Sean!
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Detmurds
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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So,..to remove that inner ring bolt which has a nut on each end,..all I have to do is remove the nuts, and knock out the threaded bolt,..or is it threaded all the way through?
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Detmurds
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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Must I turn this bolt, or knock it through?
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Sean in PA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say " that inner ring bolt which has a nut on each end". Can you post a picture so we can understand what you're referring to?
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Detmurds
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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They are the very only bolts going through the wheel that has a nut on both sides. This is not the bolts closest to the rubber of the tire. Just the bolts near the hub.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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| Detmurds wrote: | (quoted from post at 00:11:46 02/14/13)
They are the very only bolts going through the wheel that has a nut on both sides. This is not the bolts closest to the rubber of the tire. Just the bolts near the hub. |
Unless someone has done some modifications, there should not be bolts there
with nuts on both ends. That's probably what's confusing me.
They should either be pressed in studs or bolts.
As Sean said, a picture would really help. Below is the part diagram and I think
you are referring to part number 24 on the upper right?
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Larry NCKS
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:47 am Post subject: Re: BUST'N NUTS! |
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I think maybe I have the answer that's been missed here. Detmurds, there is a ring of bolts that secure the backing plate and outer axle bearing flange to the axle housing itself. These would have nuts on the inside. Do not remove these. This ring of bolts will have a smaller diameter than the lug bolts.
Find the access hole in the brake backing plate that everyone has been pointing you to. Remove the cover. Align the broken lug bolt with this hole and drive it out through the hole. This is a hammer and punch job. drive the replacement in the same way. (If you happen to have an air hammer this makes life so much easier) Rotate the axle until all broken lug bolts have been replaced. With only 3 of 8 left, I might be suspicious of the integrity of these 3 and replace all 8 while I was at it.
NOTE: It may be easier to do this with the brake drum removed.
NOTE: The final draw in of the new bolts may need to be preformed by drawing up the lug nuts.
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