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xring 223 Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:15 am Post subject: charging problem |
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newely rebuilt generator, new cut out, and a new amp meter. Single wire generator amp meter shows discharge when starting and more when lights are on. polarized at installation of generator. Why wont it charge or a least show charging |
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Den N Ms Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:48 am Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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xring 223,To check things ,remove the belt from the generator pulley and jump across the two connection posts on the cutout with a short piece of wire ect.Does that make the generator motor?If not there is something wrong with the generator or wire connections.Post back. |
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Tom N MS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:49 am Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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With tractor running-use an analog meter and check across battery post-what reading do u get? |
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xring 223 Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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OK i checked voltage 8.40 I'm running 8V battery took belt off generator jumped relay and it ran in the direction of engine rotation |
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carlntexas Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:39 am Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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The 8v battery is your problem generator won't charge an 8v. |
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xring 223 Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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really my brother has a 928N with an 8 volt batt. and his generator keeps it charged just fine |
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flembo Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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I see you put in a new amp meter could it be wired wrong. |
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flembo Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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SCRATCH MY POST 8 volt bat. and 8.4 volt reading not good. I didn't read your post well enough sorry. |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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for gennies with a vreg.. you have to tweak the vreg to get them to charge 8v.
in general.. 8v is a poor bandaid.
I'd make 6 work or go 12.
if it likes 8.. it will love 12... |
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xring 223 Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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amp meter has + and - post neg ground system so battery side went to - post is this correct? like I said before when starting the meter shows discharge and turn lights on shows discharge also I took battery of and engine kuit and ideas |
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xring 223 Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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I would like to keep it original how would you tweek a cutout relay doesn't have a vreg |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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you don't tweak a relay. a 1 wire genny has a 3rd brush you turn up. |
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Royse Tractor Expert
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3033 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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What's the voltage at each terminal of your cutout relay when running?
I'm thinking your generator is charging fine and your cutout is not closing.
Wouldn't be the first bad new one I've heard about.
Ammeter discharges when lights are on sounds right to me.
It should bounce as the points open and close when cranking. |
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xring 223 Regular
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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I turned it up all the way |
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souNdguy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: charging problem |
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keep an eye on bat voltage at full charge.. don't want to boil it |
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