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ricb
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i was thinking the other day while trying to get the 2-155 started, i wonder which models of oliver tractors were produced with factory 4wd. if i'm not mistaken this was the first brand of tractor with true 4wd from the factory in row crop versions. am i correct in my thinking?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

the first oliver tractors to have front wheel assist was the 1800 and 1900 b series.then any four digit oliver after that had it as well. you are also right oliver was the first but i am sure some minni-moline guys say they were the first.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

jordan hackman wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:17:25 02/16/13) the first oliver tractors to have front wheel assist was the 1800 and 1900 b series.then any four digit oliver after that had it as well. you are also right oliver was the first but i am sure some minni-moline guys say they were the first.


Do you have any documentation that says Oliver was first? I don't even have a dog in the fight, but I think MM was first.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Massey Harris GP in 1930.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The first MM tractor that was equipped with front wheel drive from the factory was on a 5 Star in 1959, as show in the picture, but to my knowledge they werent ever put into production as MM was changing model designations. In 1960 the M5 models came out and shortly there after the M504 with front wheel drive, as well as the G704 with front wheel drive. To me the G704 is technically a wheatland model but the M504 could be used for row crop farming. Oliver had the most clearance under the front axle with the hydraulic drive units on them.

 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Good information there. The prototype Oliver 1800 and 1900 FWA were built in 1961. A few A series 1800 & 1900 tractors with front wheel assist were built in 1962. Who manufactued the axle on the Moline and did Elwood do the rest of it?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As far as I know the front axles that MM used were the Elwood and Coleman ones on various models. From what I have heard they did also install one on a 4 Star MM sometime in 1959-61 which also wasnt put into production. Im guessing the thinking at that time being why do you need front wheel drive on a 45hp tractor? And now days....it is hard to find one without it.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

O. K. Elwood I don't think made the axle, Elwood made some front ends for IH as well later on. I know they used a Spicer(Dana) as we had a farmer come see us looking for a part quick like. So which manufacture did Elwood use for Moline? How can I contact you?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That Im not sure. I dont know the specifics on them.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: oliver 4wd Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just purchased a 1900 Oliver MFD last week. It is by serial #a 1962. I need to check further, but the throttle is on the column.
The front axles they used were Clark axles.
I'm also looking to find to find the castings that bolt to the main engine tub of tractor, along with the frame work that the axle bolts onto. It is everything that is above the axle assembly if anyone knows of one. Need it for another project
 
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