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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

does anyone know if a 359 john deere combine engine has the same bolt pattern as a 3010 bell housing and will mate with the 3010 without an adapter plate and if there is a flywheel that a clutch and pressure plate will bolt to that will work in the 3010.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote


No 300(Dubuque/Saran) series engine will bolt up to a 3010 without the aid of a 2510/4030 clutch housing
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:20 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The problem with the 3010/20 is JD only used that engine in the tractors and used engines and some parts are hard to find.If the 329 would fit that would be great and there would be many around but I have never seen one.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:33 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Basically you will have to use a 3010-3020 engine.The 359 will not work as a bolt in.The 359 is a 6 cylinder,so you will need a longer hood,larger radiator,and a laundry list of other parts. . A non turboed 219-239-or 276 can be adapted in,but it is still alot of work,will require a fair amount of fabricating of frame mounts,and linkages,you will need 4030 bell housing adapter,a 2510 pump stand,new throttle linkage,new tach cable,air cleaner hoses, plus the cost of a 4 cylinder engine.
3010/3020 engines/blocks are out there,but are getting scarce. You could probably buy another rough but good running 3010 for alot less than adapting in another engine.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If one were really intent on doing this, contact Superior Diesel in Rhinelander, WI. they are a John Deere engine distributor. In the late 80-early 90's, they had repowered 3020s (4239 etc) and 4020's (6414) repowered tractors at some farm shows.

At one point, they made a kit, or at least how-to instructions, to install these engines in some of the NG tractors. They have maybe long since forgotten that they did, but they were out there!
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The kits from Superior Diesel also had reinforced the frame rails due to the difference in block design. There are no rear frame mounting pads on the 300 series block. Front frame mounts are on the hyd pump mount as used on 2510. A 4 cylinder will be easier to do as the length will not be an issue.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Cliff-

Do you have any more info on those kits? Did they make more than just a few?

thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm doing this currently in a pulling tractor, however I'm running a 7700 combine gas engine, and 4010 frame rails just used the 3010 rear for weight
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote


you are total wrong tex Jim they dont bolt up
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Kent
Thanks for correcting me. All I did was leave out one tiny word between "will" & "bolt" that I intended to type in which was "NOT"
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The 2510 was a non side console 3020 with a four cylinder Dubuque 300 series engine. The 2520 was a side console 3020 with a Dubuque 300 series four cylinder.
A 2510 and in particular the 2520 is too valuable to part out in order to re-engine a 3010.
Sorry but that 3010 is either going to need a $$$ Waterloo four cylinder engine. Or give up on her.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm with you B&D,,hang a "Do not resuscitate" sign on her...
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A friend has a late model 3020 powershift that he put a 239 with a turbo in many years ago.He did a great job and it looks factory.I have seen some that look terrible.I am not sure if a 3010 is worth the expense.You maybe ahead to sell the 3010 as is and put that money toward a good 2510 or 3020 tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't know how many they sold but I would say more than a few. The dealer I worked for installed a couple of them. I may still have a sales sheet, have to look.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 3010 repower Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's my understanding that a 400 series 6 cylinder will bolt up to a 3010/20 , need longer rails , pipes , hood and stuff , but not a big job , and cheaper than a 3010/20 engine . Might need to derate the power a bit .
 
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