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JohnE/pa, New User
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:16 am Post subject: Save the US mail |
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Solution for the USPS money problems....charge full price for all the junk mail that constantly fills my mailbox that I have to pay to get rid of!!! |
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pconnie Regular
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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don t. - 9n180179 Regular
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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If the junk mail contains a return postage paid envelope, send it back to them.
I figure, whats good for the goose..... |
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Dean Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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Bingo.
The USPS has managed to morph itself into a subsidized delivery service for junk mail.
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willie in mn Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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Bear with me a minute, actually junk mail pays more than first class for the cost of handling.
Example:
A first class letter must be sent from local P.O. to regional sorting center. There it is sorted, either by hand or machine, consolidated with other mail going to final destination, or in the same direction, sorted again to final P.O., then sorted again by final route carrier. All movement is by USPS or contracted carriers, paid for with the $ 0.46 stamp.
Junk mail travels by truck carrier from printer to final P.O. Millions of copies, all the same, never needs to be sorted. Hauling is paid by the printer, who includes the cost in his bill to the advertiser. Truck carrier drops assigned pallets of mail at regional center or local P.O., a full trailer load at larger cities, or spread out to many smaller centers. Local P.O. does not have to sort, just hands out number of copies to each local carrier to match number of customers on his/her route, who puts one in each box.
Have been there, done that. Picked up at printer in Reno, first drop at Baton Rouge, then New Orleans, Mobile, Jacksonville, Tampa, final in Miami. Another load started in Miami, then up to Jacksonvile, across to Pensacola, up to Nashville, final in Knoxville, with about 10 drops scattered in between. Took a total of 4 days. USPS is only involved with final route delivery.
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oldtanker Tractor Guru
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 6028 Location: Mn
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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| willie in mn wrote: | (quoted from post at 13:06:54 02/27/13) Bear with me a minute, actually junk mail pays more than first class for the cost of handling.
Example:
A first class letter must be sent from local P.O. to regional sorting center. There it is sorted, either by hand or machine, consolidated with other mail going to final destination, or in the same direction, sorted again to final P.O., then sorted again by final route carrier. All movement is by USPS or contracted carriers, paid for with the $ 0.46 stamp.
Junk mail travels by truck carrier from printer to final P.O. Millions of copies, all the same, never needs to be sorted. Hauling is paid by the printer, who includes the cost in his bill to the advertiser. Truck carrier drops assigned pallets of mail at regional center or local P.O., a full trailer load at larger cities, or spread out to many smaller centers. Local P.O. does not have to sort, just hands out number of copies to each local carrier to match number of customers on his/her route, who puts one in each box.
Have been there, done that. Picked up at printer in Reno, first drop at Baton Rouge, then New Orleans, Mobile, Jacksonville, Tampa, final in Miami. Another load started in Miami, then up to Jacksonvile, across to Pensacola, up to Nashville, final in Knoxville, with about 10 drops scattered in between. Took a total of 4 days. USPS is only involved with final route delivery.
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So Willie, yer saying that if charged full price the USPS would make even more money! I like this idea!
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Rich'sToys Regular
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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What he's saying is that the Post Office makes a good share of its money by delivering that stuff, even with the lower rates that they pay. If it weren't for that stuff, your regular stamps would be a lot higher.
Actually we're getting a pretty good deal for 46 cents. |
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oldtanker Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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1. I was being sarcastic.
2. At 46 cents we are not getting a good deal when I can send hundreds of mails a day from my puter for a lot less than 46 cents each and have them delivered almost instantly.
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Dave Sherburne NY Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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Saw an article a few days ago, Postal service is gonna sell a line of clothing Maybe that will save the USPS. Who wants to be first in line for a Pea Coat $500
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John in Mich Regular
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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I've been doing that for years. Sometimes even mix junk. Why send it back? 1: I don't have to carry it out with trash; 2: My landfill does not receive it; 3: USPS gets paid for delivery by advertizer 4: Advertizer has to open it, someone has a job; 5: Advertizer trash is carried out by employee, a job; 6. Advertizer's state landfill gets the trash. Any other benefits?
ps I do remove my name and address from ALL mail. |
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carlntexas Regular
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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| don t. - 9n180179 wrote: | (quoted from post at 11:20:17 02/27/13) If the junk mail contains a return postage paid envelope, send it back to them.
I figure, whats good for the goose..... | I add some weight to it so it makes USPS more money. |
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Royse Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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Another thought, they could charge a nominal fee for all those shipping boxes.
You know, the fancy red white and blue ones that say USPS on them that they
give away and deliver for free in an attempt to get you to use their service.
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Tom N MS Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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muleboss Regular
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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| John in Mich wrote: | (quoted from post at 19:48:54 02/27/13) I've been doing that for years. Sometimes even mix junk. Why send it back? 1: I don't have to carry it out with trash; 2: My landfill does not receive it; 3: USPS gets paid for delivery by advertizer 4: Advertizer has to open it, someone has a job; 5: Advertizer trash is carried out by employee, a job; 6. Advertizer's state landfill gets the trash. Any other benefits?
ps I do remove my name and address from ALL mail. |
When you send it back,all it does is raise the cost of products that was advertised. Who do you think pays the return postage? The customer. |
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willie in mn Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Save the US mail |
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Rick
Yup
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