38” rear wheel replacement MF 180

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Howdy
I usually post on another forum but seem to be more older tractor owners on here with lots of insight. so I thought I’d give this a go.
I have a Massey Ferguson 180 tractor that the rear wheel has rusted out and it’s beyond repair according to the tire shop. It has the power adjustment rims (which I have never used and didn’t even know what it was until this all started). Tire size saids 14.9-38 on a 13” rim. Having a heck of a time finding the 13” rim so figured I’d try a 12 or 14” rim as my 265 has a 12” rim. Found a 14” for 900$ rim only still need a new tire as well. 4+ hours away. So I got to thinking if there’s a generic wheel not just the rim but the center included that anyone knows of that would bolt up. Hard to find anyone that understands these tractors around here and if I can go with a smaller width wheel as well that might give me more options with the wheel and tire combination at an affordable price? My other thought is to weld a patch job onto the inside of the rim and drill a new hole for the valve stem. Sounds easier said then done as it’s corroded on the bevels of the bead as well. Im sure someone has dealt with this before, any thoughts and or opinions would be great. Even if it’s to tell me to get the rim at 900$ at 4 hours away which at this point seems to make the most sense.
thanks for your time
 
Look at Heywheel, they have all sorts of rims and wheels. Depending on how rusty the rim is I just weld the hole shut then drill the new hole right in the same place it was. By welding the hole shut there is no sharp edge on the rim to cut the tube or stem. Then with a smooth rim it would be possible to just weld your power adjust bars to the rim before the tire is installed on it. Massey was pretty popular about the adjustable rims and so not a lot of regular cast centers and wheels. Though you might look at a hub dual set up to fit a disc wheel on like for a set of duals. You would however lose the weight of the heavy center casting. If weldng shut the old hole and then drilling a new hole in the same place I also file out the abrupt edge from the drill on both sides so it has a rounded or chamfered corner to follow when the new or old tube is used.
 
Howdy
I usually post on another forum but seem to be more older tractor owners on here with lots of insight. so I thought I’d give this a go.
I have a Massey Ferguson 180 tractor that the rear wheel has rusted out and it’s beyond repair according to the tire shop. It has the power adjustment rims (which I have never used and didn’t even know what it was until this all started). Tire size saids 14.9-38 on a 13” rim. Having a heck of a time finding the 13” rim so figured I’d try a 12 or 14” rim as my 265 has a 12” rim. Found a 14” for 900$ rim only still need a new tire as well. 4+ hours away. So I got to thinking if there’s a generic wheel not just the rim but the center included that anyone knows of that would bolt up. Hard to find anyone that understands these tractors around here and if I can go with a smaller width wheel as well that might give me more options with the wheel and tire combination at an affordable price? My other thought is to weld a patch job onto the inside of the rim and drill a new hole for the valve stem. Sounds easier said then done as it’s corroded on the bevels of the bead as well. Im sure someone has dealt with this before, any thoughts and or opinions would be great. Even if it’s to tell me to get the rim at 900$ at 4 hours away which at this point seems to make the most sense.
thanks for your time
Welcome to the forums.

13" is the recommended rim width the tire was designed for; it is not a case of the tire must be on a 13" wide rim. Tires end up on wider and narrower rims than the design recommended widths. Have you confirmed the actual rim width by measuring it? There is the possibility that the rim is 14". The 180 parts book does not show a 13" rim. It shows the 6-rail power adjust rim as 14" x 38", part number 519369M1. (The 11" x 38" show as 4 rail rims.) Measure inside of the rim, bead flange to bead flange, do not include any outside rolled out lip to see just what your rim is.
 
Howdy
I usually post on another forum but seem to be more older tractor owners on here with lots of insight. so I thought I’d give this a go.
I have a Massey Ferguson 180 tractor that the rear wheel has rusted out and it’s beyond repair according to the tire shop. It has the power adjustment rims (which I have never used and didn’t even know what it was until this all started). Tire size saids 14.9-38 on a 13” rim. Having a heck of a time finding the 13” rim so figured I’d try a 12 or 14” rim as my 265 has a 12” rim. Found a 14” for 900$ rim only still need a new tire as well. 4+ hours away. So I got to thinking if there’s a generic wheel not just the rim but the center included that anyone knows of that would bolt up. Hard to find anyone that understands these tractors around here and if I can go with a smaller width wheel as well that might give me more options with the wheel and tire combination at an affordable price? My other thought is to weld a patch job onto the inside of the rim and drill a new hole for the valve stem. Sounds easier said then done as it’s corroded on the bevels of the bead as well. Im sure someone has dealt with this before, any thoughts and or opinions would be great. Even if it’s to tell me to get the rim at 900$ at 4 hours away which at this point seems to make the most sense.
thanks for your time
This is what I did with a 13 x 28 rim that was bad all the way around on one side.
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Thanks guys I’m not much of a mechanic but can usually tear things apart and put ‘em back together and learning all the time how things work. Most of this stuff seems to be pretty basic to how it operates. So makes sense to be able to weld some new stuff together and drill out valve stem just making sure everything is smooth would be critical. I’ll have to do some more shopping online see what’s available as you mentioned caterpillar. haven’t got the tire and wheel back yet as the tire shop has my trailer for new tires on it still. Once I get it back I’ll have to do my own inspection see how bad it really is how much time and ability will be needed to repair it. I’ll also be able to verify rim size. I did think it was odd the 13” rim when agco shows 14” but makes sense what you said Jim on the recommended size. I thought I read somewhere most tires have a 2”+or- rim size. That’s way above my ability Bob rim looks good. Nice to know there are options out there just more or less need to see how bad it is and how long I want to look at it blocked up in my driveway for.
Thank you guys glad to be part of this forum now lots of good and knowledgeable advice on here.
 
Howdy
I usually post on another forum but seem to be more older tractor owners on here with lots of insight. so I thought I’d give this a go.
I have a Massey Ferguson 180 tractor that the rear wheel has rusted out and it’s beyond repair according to the tire shop. It has the power adjustment rims (which I have never used and didn’t even know what it was until this all started). Tire size saids 14.9-38 on a 13” rim. Having a heck of a time finding the 13” rim so figured I’d try a 12 or 14” rim as my 265 has a 12” rim. Found a 14” for 900$ rim only still need a new tire as well. 4+ hours away. So I got to thinking if there’s a generic wheel not just the rim but the center included that anyone knows of that would bolt up. Hard to find anyone that understands these tractors around here and if I can go with a smaller width wheel as well that might give me more options with the wheel and tire combination at an affordable price? My other thought is to weld a patch job onto the inside of the rim and drill a new hole for the valve stem. Sounds easier said then done as it’s corroded on the bevels of the bead as well. Im sure someone has dealt with this before, any thoughts and or opinions would be great. Even if it’s to tell me to get the rim at 900$ at 4 hours away which at this point seems to make the most sense.
thanks for your time
Hey there,
Just wondering how you made out with your rim replacement/repair? I'm going through a similar situation right now with my MF 265 38" rim (luckily only the one side). I'm up in B.C Canada, and all there is are 2 tractor salvage yards up here that I've heard of, the closest is 500 miles away, the other is across the country. (Too far away to ship for a 50+ yr old tractor anyways). Just wondering what you ended up doing.20240912_115935.jpg
 
Hey there,
Just wondering how you made out with your rim replacement/repair? I'm going through a similar situation right now with my MF 265 38" rim (luckily only the one side). I'm up in B.C Canada, and all there is are 2 tractor salvage yards up here that I've heard of, the closest is 500 miles away, the other is across the country. (Too far away to ship for a 50+ yr old tractor anyways). Just wondering what you ended up doing.View attachment 87631
Hey there
I’m waiting on a replacement. Got tired of calling around and searching for a 38” rim of any style to cut apart and weld a patch into. I really like that idea though. So after calling about 15 different tractor repair shops and tire and wheel shops with no one even wanting to help out I finally found a commercial tire outfit that was not only willing to spend more than 30 seconds on the phone and ask me a few questions about my situation he gave me a few ideas and wasn’twilling to help any way they could depending if I wanted a new rim or find a fab shop to fab something up. After getting off the phone he called me back ten minutes later and did some leg work on his own to figure availability and pricing of a new one. Just to get me started with numbers. That seems to be rare any more (customer service).

Soo. I took tire and wheel to him to take apart and found a couple welding shops to give me a quote and fabricating something up. I don’t have pictures but pretty rusted out at the valve stem and all the way up the bead about a quarter way around the rim. Fab shops wanted 1500-2000$ just labor. Estimate price of new rim 1100-1500 with shipping take a couple weeks to get here. So I’m waiting on a replacement rim been just over a week. Sometimes customer service wins over price but I also haven’t got the wheel and tire back or the bill yet. I’ve also got a 265 too so my plan is to keep the old rim so now I have one to start cutting up. I had the same thoughts you did this dang tire and wheel is worth more than my tractor. But I can’t afford a new tractor and if I buy another used tractor who saids it’s not going to have problems just the same? Tractor still runs pretty good so that’s my update. By the way I’m in central Oregon rims being sourced from an outfit out of tri cities Washington. If you need some info I can surely try to get some from the place I’m going through here in central Oregon. Just let me know.
 
Hey there,
Just wondering how you made out with your rim replacement/repair? I'm going through a similar situation right now with my MF 265 38" rim (luckily only the one side). I'm up in B.C Canada, and all there is are 2 tractor salvage yards up here that I've heard of, the closest is 500 miles away, the other is across the country. (Too far away to ship for a 50+ yr old tractor anyways). Just wondering what you ended up doing.View attachment 87631
May I ask you your location keljan 11 ?
For myself in the Dawson Creek area..
Did you try SEXSMITH Tractor parts ? Located close to Grand Prairie Alberta...about 45 minutes east of me..
 
May I ask you your location keljan 11 ?
For myself in the Dawson Creek area..
Did you try SEXSMITH Tractor parts ? Located close to Grand Prairie Alberta...about 45 minutes east of me..
Hi there,
We live at the other end of the province, down near Penticton, BC (in Hedley). I've talked to the tire shop in Princeton, 30 miles away, and they said if I had the repairs to the rim done by a certified welder, and if the tire itself is okay, they would fill the tire. Apparently there is a guy with a bunch of old tractors that I might be able to find another rusted out rim to cut a chunk out to make the repair with.
Figure this is the only way I'll have a serviceable tractor before the snow comes in.
 
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