861stuck draft control lever

jyergin

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anybody have any thoughts on why the draft control lever on an 861 would be stuck in the upper
position, but not solidly all the way up I believe. feels spongy slack but won't go down more than a
third of what it should from pictures I have seen. Otherwise three point lift works okay just not sure
in what mode or where to look for the problem.
 


The friction damper on the shaft that the lever mounts on sometimes gets rusted in place. try removing the nut and handle and cleaning it up.
 
When moving into Draft mode the lever movement is compressing a spring. Going into Position the compressed spring is being released. You can feel this.
 
actually no...Thats kinda the problem. I'm not moving the handle much at all, not compressing type
feel, and handle will not go down. thanks though.
 
There are several places for rust to form and result in such a problem. Especially since those linkage parts are well above any oil level and in a tractor not used enough to get it really hot, the moisture is never removed.
 
(quoted from post at 11:45:33 09/04/23) thanks for the thoughts...i'll try it soon and tell if it works. thanks


Be careful of that lever, it is pot metal and they will break where they attach to the hub.
 
Okay, I thought there would be oil on the other side of the casing that the lever's shaft goes through. I guess I need to look into repair books more. thanks.
 
will do, but where does that hub go and how do I get to there?

This post was edited by jyergin on 09/04/2023 at 04:55 pm.
 
(quoted from post at 16:49:04 09/04/23) Okay, I thought there would be oil on the other side of the casing that the lever's shaft goes through. I guess I need to look into repair books more. thanks.


No oil on the other side. The oil level is eight inches lower. There is plenty of condensation however.
 
(quoted from post at 19:51:46 09/04/23) will do, but where does that hub go and how do I get to there?

This post was edited by jyergin on 09/04/2023 at 04:55 pm.
icture is older tractor, but this still very much the same. Lever attached to short shaft which has ear on other end at "C" which attaches to "LINK" at other end of which is "T" (toggle), which when moved compresses spring nearest the link.
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The fill plug may give a view of it are a place to blast some oil at it.
Let hope some crazy did not lather it up with anti-size. I have had the lift quadrant stick/jam up I freed it with penetrant thru the fill plug.


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The picture helps a lot, thanks. I had no idea it got that wet and rusty in there. I expected oil
splashed everywhere. this ol' tractor hasn't been used much for ten years and little to no
maintenance. I better take my time tearing into it, cause I hate breaking hard to find parts. Thanks
again for the education.
 
(quoted from post at 18:06:00 09/05/23) The picture helps a lot, thanks. I had no idea it got that wet and rusty in there. I expected oil
splashed everywhere. this ol' tractor hasn't been used much for ten years and little to no
maintenance. I better take my time tearing into it, cause I hate breaking hard to find parts. Thanks
again for the education.


Understand also that keeping a tractor under cover has very little effect on keeping the moisture out and rust forming or oil getting milky. In order to keep moisture of condensation from building up you, as JMOR posted, need to work it hard enough, frequently enough, to get it hot enough, for long enough to get the oil hot enough to evaporate the moisture.
 
(quoted from post at 07:18:03 09/06/23)
(quoted from post at 18:06:00 09/05/23) The picture helps a lot, thanks. I had no idea it got that wet and rusty in there. I expected oil
splashed everywhere. this ol' tractor hasn't been used much for ten years and little to no
maintenance. I better take my time tearing into it, cause I hate breaking hard to find parts. Thanks
again for the education.


Understand also that keeping a tractor under cover has very little effect on keeping the moisture out and rust forming or oil getting milky. In order to keep moisture of condensation from building up you, as JMOR posted, need to work it hard enough, frequently enough, to get it hot enough, for long enough to get the oil hot enough to evaporate the moisture.
he picture I posted earlier was all nice and clean.....this is probably closer to what you will find:
IL4Z6sk.jpg
 
(quoted from post at 07:05:08 09/06/23)
(quoted from post at 07:18:03 09/06/23)
(quoted from post at 18:06:00 09/05/23) The picture helps a lot, thanks. I had no idea it got that wet and rusty in there. I expected oil
splashed everywhere. this ol' tractor hasn't been used much for ten years and little to no
maintenance. I better take my time tearing into it, cause I hate breaking hard to find parts. Thanks
again for the education.


Understand also that keeping a tractor under cover has very little effect on keeping the moisture out and rust forming or oil getting milky. In order to keep moisture of condensation from building up you, as JMOR posted, need to work it hard enough, frequently enough, to get it hot enough, for long enough to get the oil hot enough to evaporate the moisture.
he picture I posted earlier was all nice and clean.....this is probably closer to what you will find:
IL4Z6sk.jpg


That is being generous to call that a pin. I have one on the floor in the shop right now that may be even worse. It is a '55.
 
(quoted from post at 12:43:42 09/06/23)
(quoted from post at 07:05:08 09/06/23)
(quoted from post at 07:18:03 09/06/23)
(quoted from post at 18:06:00 09/05/23) The picture helps a lot, thanks. I had no idea it got that wet and rusty in there. I expected oil
splashed everywhere. this ol' tractor hasn't been used much for ten years and little to no
maintenance. I better take my time tearing into it, cause I hate breaking hard to find parts. Thanks
again for the education.


Understand also that keeping a tractor under cover has very little effect on keeping the moisture out and rust forming or oil getting milky. In order to keep moisture of condensation from building up you, as JMOR posted, need to work it hard enough, frequently enough, to get it hot enough, for long enough to get the oil hot enough to evaporate the moisture.
he picture I posted earlier was all nice and clean.....this is probably closer to what you will find:
IL4Z6sk.jpg


That is being generous to call that a pin. I have one on the floor in the shop right now that may be even worse. It is a '55.
ep, it followed that cam almost to its death!
 
you know... I don't own a plow for this tractor, and probably will never use the draft control. right now I just have a boom attachment for the three point hitch. Maybe I'll have to think how bad I need it working. Might be a better time to tear into it. I just got it running good I would like to run it a while on some small jobs I have before I tear it down again. But thanks everybody for letting me know what to expect when I do...and eventually i will tear into it. :?
 

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