Aftermarket Spindles

[71RAT]

Hello folks,
Really hate having my 821 down, she needs some well deserved maintaince. Was just replacing tires, currently at the spindle bushings and thrust bearings. The spindles are in realy rough shape. Finding good used will probably be a nightmare, aftermarket seem almost to cheap!
Anybody have experience with the aftermarket replacements? Good or bad? BTW tractor has a loader, and I use it, not a show piece. $50ish-$70ish the A&I brand are $17ish??
Thanks
JKW

 

[SkipperII]

I have replaced the spindles on 5000, and a 4110, both from All States, they both have worked fine.

 

[71RAT]

I have replaced the spindles on 5000, and a 4110, both from All States, they both have worked fine.

One positive!
Thank you for your response .

 

[sotxbill]

I have replace ford 3000 spindles on 3 different tractors with a&I spindles in the day with no problems... Anytime you run a loader, you will destroy factory thrust bearings early... So when you start to see the upper gap, time to drop a new set in.

 

[71RAT]

I have replace ford 3000 spindles on 3 different tractors with a&I spindles in the day with no problems... Anytime you run a loader, you will destroy factory thrust bearings early... So when you start to see the upper gap, time to drop a new set in.

My gramp bought this 821 in the early 60's maintenance was putting gas in it!! The front end looks pretty fragile. Do not doubt you at all, About having a loader on it! Now know to keep an eye on the thrust bearings! I took it over 20+ years ago. On going restoration.
Thanks for the reply!

 

[john in la]

If I found a spindle for $17 I would be reading the small print very well because that sounds like a used price.
$50 to $70 is more realistic for new.

In fact I would like a link to $17 spindles if they are new as I would buy a set of those.

 

[71RAT]

If I found a spindle for $17 I would be reading the small print very well because that sounds like a used price.
$50 to $70 is more realistic for new.

In fact I would like a link to $17 spindles if they are new as I would buy a set of those.

Typing mistake, that would be $175.00ish! Came across a couple north of $500.00. Have no problem with good used, key word GOOD!

 

[Check Break]

Save your old spindles. If the aftermarket ones don't work out, rebuild your old ones.

 

[JJL]

I replaced the spindles on my 5610 loader tractor with a set from All States two years ago. So far so good. If you have trouble getting the bushings out just run a bead of weld on the inside of the bushing & it should shrink them up.

 

[Fordfarmer]

Hello folks,
Really hate having my 821 down, she needs some well deserved maintaince. Was just replacing tires, currently at the spindle bushings and thrust bearings. The spindles are in realy rough shape. Finding good used will probably be a nightmare, aftermarket seem almost to cheap!
Anybody have experience with the aftermarket replacements? Good or bad? BTW tractor has a loader, and I use it, not a show piece. $50ish-$70ish the A&I brand are $17ish??
Thanks
JKW

I've replaced the left spindle on my 4600 3x now. Granted, it IS my loader tractor. The original broke from hitting a frozen rut when I was putting a bale out for the cows. The first replacement broke after about a year. Carrying a bale again, but on relatively smooth ground. The 2nd replacement broke after maybe 3 or 4 months. The loader was on the tractor, but the bucket was empty, on smooth ground. 3rd replacement is ok so far, after 4-5 months, and handling 300+ 4x6 round bales this summer.
All States did warranty the 2nd replacement that broke.

 

[71RAT]

I've replaced the left spindle on my 4600 3x now. Granted, it IS my loader tractor. The original broke from hitting a frozen rut when I was putting a bale out for the cows. The first replacement broke after about a year. Carrying a bale again, but on relatively smooth ground. The 2nd replacement broke after maybe 3 or 4 months. The loader was on the tractor, but the bucket was empty, on smooth ground. 3rd replacement is ok so far, after 4-5 months, and handling 300+ 4x6 round bales this summer.
All States did warranty the 2nd replacement that broke.

That's what makes me nervous. No clue if a person can know quality of the steel/metals and process used manufacturing the part.
I'm a transmission/driveline rebuilder, 30+years. I see some serious aftermarket GARBAGE! There is a small percentage that seems to fit and hold up. 3 years 100k warranty, quality parts are a must!
Thanks all!

 

[Check Break]

I'm a transmission/driveline rebuilder, 30+years.

That's the best news yet. You must know an engine rebuilder who knows how to reman a crank. Send the spindles out to be ground, welded, heat treated and ground back to spec. Should get you another 50 years of service.

 

[71RAT]

That's the best news yet. You must know an engine rebuilder who knows how to reman a crank. Send the spindles out to be ground, welded, heat treated and ground back to spec. Should get you another 50 years of service.

Most of the engine rebuilding shops closed down around here. I don't know of any machine shops take could handle that task, not saying there aren't. That's a good idea about a crankshaft referbishing outfit!
Had I any idea I'd end up with Gramps tractor, when I was a child, would have gone and bought a grease gun and used it! My grampas idea of maintenance was, put gas in when it ran out.

 

[Old Ford Mechanic]

I have been through this several times over the years. I have been fortunate to have a good machine shop in my area to work with. I order new bushings then, take the spindles along with the bushings and the outer axle stubs to the shop. They install the bushings then, machine the spindles back to the correct size. They then fit the spindles to the bushings reaming if needed for correct fit. This has always worked out good here.

 

[Fordfarmer]

That's what makes me nervous. No clue if a person can know quality of the steel/metals and process used manufacturing the part.
I'm a transmission/driveline rebuilder, 30+years. I see some serious aftermarket GARBAGE! There is a small percentage that seems to fit and hold up. 3 years 100k warranty, quality parts are a must!
Thanks all!

On this last one, while it is holding up (so far), the fit wasn't great. The keyway was off by enough that I had to lengthen the tie rod by more than an inch.
We really need to have an option besides China or India for our parts.

 

[showcrop]

One spindle on my 901 was very bad. Someone had built it up and crudely ground it down. There was no fitting a seal onto it. When the hub was tightened on they cracked the race. I ground the spindle down to where I could fit a short piece of tubing onto it and welded it on. It is working pretty well.

 

[SkipperII]

That's the best news yet. You must know an engine rebuilder who knows how to reman a crank. Send the spindles out to be ground, welded, heat treated and ground back to spec. Should get you another 50 years of service.

And probably cost about double the price of a new one. Machining prices have really gone up.

 

[Hobo,NC]

Most of the engine rebuilding shops closed down around here. I don't know of any machine shops take could handle that task, not saying there aren't. That's a good idea about a crankshaft referbishing outfit!
Had I any idea I'd end up with Gramps tractor, when I was a child, would have gone and bought a grease gun and used it! My grampas idea of maintenance was, put gas in when it ran out.

All you need is time a welder and a lathe. BTDT it ate up a bunch of time. If I had a grinde set up on the lathe it would have been much eaisier.